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we live in a reality of phantoms and

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monsters

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they exist among us and sometimes they

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even the devil was an angel once

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the world has its own rules

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and these rules are not

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human some of us seek answers to the

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origin and existence of cryptids in the

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unexplained

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join us as we venture beyond the known

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and accepted boundaries

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welcome to our nightmare

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hey folks good evening and welcome to

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another episode of fans of monsters

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the unexplained

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so tonight preston dennett began

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investigating ufos in the paranormal in

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1986

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when he discovered that his family

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friends and co-workers were having

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dramatic

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uh unexplained encounters since then he

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has interviewed hundreds of witnesses

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and investigated a wide variety of

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paranormal phenomena

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he is a field investigator for the

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mutual ufo network

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a ghost hunter a paranormal researcher

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and the author of 20 books and more than

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100 articles on ufos

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and the paranormal

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several his books have been on amazon's

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ufo bestsellers list

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preston's articles have appeared in

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numerous magazines including fate

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atlantis rising mufon ufo journal nexus

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paranormal magazine ufo magazine

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phenomena magazine mysteries magazine

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ufologist and others he has appeared on

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numerous radio and television programs

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including midnight in the desert ark

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bell coast to coast am and also the

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history channel's deep sea ufos and ufo

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honors

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his research has been presented in the

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l.a times the la daily news the dallas

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morning news and other newspapers

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preston has taught classes on various

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paranormal subjects and lectures across

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the united states he currently resides

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in southern california and his website

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also bernadette daniel is an

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investigator researcher at fam's

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monsters 14 research she's joining me

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tonight as my co-host

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and will soon be premiering her own show

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a paranormal life on fans and monsters

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radio

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so

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preston thanks for joining tonight

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hey my pleasure thanks for having me on

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so

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before we start out i did want to ask

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you a question about something that

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and i don't know if you heard about but

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the calvin ufo photo from scotland in

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1990 you're aware of that

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i am yep that's all the buzz right now

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yeah you know i i wrote an article about

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it today

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it's kind of interesting because it's

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one of those deals that it was

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had been classified

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the british uh ministry of defense had

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been holding it

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away from public eye but somehow it got

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leaked do you know the whole story

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behind that

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i can't say another whole story now

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yeah it's an interesting photograph um i

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mean it looks like maybe uh

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what people consider a regular saucer

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but the fact it was taken in 1990 been

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a journalist got wind of it and then the

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daily mail actually did published it in

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the in their newspaper in recent weeks

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but uh yeah it's an interesting

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photograph it was a photo of part of a

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an airplane that was

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that but uh if you want to read anything

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about it it's up on the blog now

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but it's uh just an interesting

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one of the better ones i've seen how are

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yeah yeah i know i wish i was a

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photographic

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analyst so i could give more of a

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educated response on it

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top which i don't normally see yeah

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unusual there's a few things that make

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book symmetry she's like i'm not so sure

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about this one

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so i don't know i don't know i i know

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there's some involvement with uh

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with the us government on this to some

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man-made who knows

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but i don't know you know i really

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couldn't tell you for sure it's got a

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weird uh

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like a propeller kind of it just it's

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yeah and it wasn't spinning or anything

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basically still ordering

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it until later on when it when it

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ascended into the sky and disappeared

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so i don't know yeah what i would like

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because these days photographs are just

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not that useful unless you have someone

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who's willing to stand behind them you

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really make a good judgment on this yeah

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that are being withheld by all our

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governments across the planet

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uh which is quite a shame

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yeah it is the recent congressional

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hearings where they showed a little

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looks almost like a balloon

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they're kind of saying this is some of

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the best evidence that we have and i'm

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like that's just not that's flat out not

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they've got gun camera footage it was

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supposedly a film

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at edwards air force base where crap

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landed so astronaut gordon cooper

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developed the film he saw it

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well maybe one day i don't know you know

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the whole classified process

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of project blue book has is still under

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lock and key um

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i don't know

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project sign that as well

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yeah project blue book don't get me

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he used to work down in huntsville

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but he was at the air force

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yeah he you know he was kind of like

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tight-lipped about a lot of that stuff

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but uh you know of course nasa used to

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be located there back in back in the 50s

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i don't know

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he just he really he really never came

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forward much of the information

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yeah blue book does have some good cases

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i mean there was quite a few they never

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were able to identify

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i think the only one involving humanoids

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socorro landing in new mexico

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with lonnie zamora

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it's my understanding that the very best

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cases bypassed blue book

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and went straight to the air technical

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intelligence command

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and they really well according to high

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neck and lots of blue book insiders and

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those have studied it

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they really put a big effort on

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dismissing cases that looked unknown

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and cases that were obviously prosaic

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you know venus or a balloon got a lot of

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i mean there was a really good example

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that heineck talked about of a landing

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in nevada

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where it was

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this guy was a great witness he had just

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finished flight school in the army and

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uh or the air force rather

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and they spent all their time trying to

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just you know figure out he was mentally

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unbalanced

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and this sort of thing instead of

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focusing on what he actually saw

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it was a white

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well of course you've written about a

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lot of different cases so hopefully you

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brought some to tell us tonight

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i i did yeah this is the cover of my

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latest book symmetry i'm super excited

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about it

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and i've interviewed a lot of people

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who've had contact and this is the story

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of dolly safran a lifelong contactee

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who does not need hypnosis to re

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remember her encounters like many people

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has no fear of her encounters and has

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had literally i mean since

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she was gosh 10 months old

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all the way to the current day he's had

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encounters been taken on board it's

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easily the most extensive case of

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as far as abductees and such

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what hey i i not going back too far but

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more recently what type of scenarios are

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being taken aboard a ship and you know

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being put on a table and this and this

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aspect of these these encounters changed

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um

288
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not a whole lot i think from very early

289
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on the pattern of contact was fairly

290
00:11:20,949 --> 00:11:20,079
well established

291
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uh

292
00:11:27,829 --> 00:11:26,000
sir or what's his name thomas bullard

293
00:11:29,910 --> 00:11:27,839
i was the first to really analyze some

294
00:11:32,069 --> 00:11:29,920
300 cases

295
00:11:34,870 --> 00:11:32,079
and uh he said basically it follows the

296
00:11:36,470 --> 00:11:34,880
same pattern person is usually

297
00:11:38,790 --> 00:11:36,480
when they're taken on board physically

298
00:11:40,230 --> 00:11:38,800
examined that's the most common thing

299
00:11:43,750 --> 00:11:40,240
people report

300
00:11:46,230 --> 00:11:43,760
that's certainly true in my files

301
00:11:47,269 --> 00:11:46,240
so we see a lot of that on the physical

302
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exam

303
00:11:52,069 --> 00:11:49,519
but beyond that he talked about how

304
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people are given a tour of the craft

305
00:11:57,190 --> 00:11:54,399
that's certainly quite common people are

306
00:11:58,949 --> 00:11:57,200
taken to perhaps the engine room

307
00:12:01,430 --> 00:11:58,959
and the ets will explain you know this

308
00:12:04,069 --> 00:12:01,440
is how we operate the craft it's usually

309
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along the lines of electromagnetism

310
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that sort of things the magnetic fields

311
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of our planet

312
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um equally common is people being taken

313
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up to the control room

314
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uh you know the helm

315
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certainly dolly saffron described that

316
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in detail with her experiences

317
00:12:24,230 --> 00:12:21,760
and uh

318
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beyond that there's people are taken to

319
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the observation deck i guess you'd call

320
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it

321
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um the craft will turn transparent this

322
00:12:34,230 --> 00:12:31,920
is very common they'll show you the moon

323
00:12:36,949 --> 00:12:34,240
they'll show you you know saturn or star

324
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field or earth down below

325
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so these are the sort of events that

326
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people experience over and over and over

327
00:12:44,389 --> 00:12:41,920
again at some point they will have a

328
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little conversation with you

329
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which if you're not like paralyzed in

330
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fear like hey just let me go

331
00:12:53,670 --> 00:12:50,880
they will talk about you know

332
00:12:57,350 --> 00:12:53,680
often spirituality in some way uh

333
00:12:59,750 --> 00:12:57,360
healing perhaps or past lives or out of

334
00:13:01,590 --> 00:12:59,760
body travel or

335
00:13:04,150 --> 00:13:01,600
this sort of thing

336
00:13:07,269 --> 00:13:04,160
so yeah it follows a fairly set pattern

337
00:13:09,430 --> 00:13:07,279
which we've seen since really the late

338
00:13:12,310 --> 00:13:09,440
early 1950s all the way to the present

339
00:13:16,629 --> 00:13:14,389
what do you think their objective is or

340
00:13:17,829 --> 00:13:16,639
what maybe their agenda if you want to

341
00:13:21,670 --> 00:13:17,839
call it that

342
00:13:23,110 --> 00:13:21,680
why are they abducting humans

343
00:13:25,030 --> 00:13:23,120
and and

344
00:13:26,310 --> 00:13:25,040
why you know what's the reason behind it

345
00:13:27,750 --> 00:13:26,320
what do you mean what are your thoughts

346
00:13:29,190 --> 00:13:27,760
on that

347
00:13:32,870 --> 00:13:29,200
yeah i mean i think

348
00:13:34,389 --> 00:13:32,880
researchers have a pretty good handle on

349
00:13:35,829 --> 00:13:34,399
why they're here and what their agenda

350
00:13:36,790 --> 00:13:35,839
is

351
00:13:39,110 --> 00:13:36,800
uh

352
00:13:40,710 --> 00:13:39,120
and what i found out certainly matches

353
00:13:43,829 --> 00:13:40,720
up with you know researchers like

354
00:13:45,509 --> 00:13:43,839
barbara lamb or john mack and

355
00:13:46,550 --> 00:13:45,519
edith fiori and

356
00:13:48,710 --> 00:13:46,560
you know there's a whole host of

357
00:13:50,310 --> 00:13:48,720
researchers out there it's pretty clear

358
00:13:52,310 --> 00:13:50,320
one of their agendas is gathering

359
00:13:54,150 --> 00:13:52,320
genetic material

360
00:13:56,550 --> 00:13:54,160
they follow family lines they've been

361
00:13:59,269 --> 00:13:56,560
taking genetic material from both men

362
00:14:00,870 --> 00:13:59,279
and women for quite some time

363
00:14:04,389 --> 00:14:00,880
and

364
00:14:05,750 --> 00:14:04,399
the agenda behind that is apparently

365
00:14:07,670 --> 00:14:05,760
to create

366
00:14:09,189 --> 00:14:07,680
what we would think of as hybrid

367
00:14:11,350 --> 00:14:09,199
children

368
00:14:13,910 --> 00:14:11,360
i don't like to call it half alien half

369
00:14:16,150 --> 00:14:13,920
human because the more i research this

370
00:14:18,790 --> 00:14:16,160
it's clear that we're very much

371
00:14:20,230 --> 00:14:18,800
genetically related to et's

372
00:14:22,470 --> 00:14:20,240
i mean the grays

373
00:14:23,829 --> 00:14:22,480
essentially from what the contactees are

374
00:14:26,790 --> 00:14:23,839
telling me

375
00:14:29,030 --> 00:14:26,800
share the same sort of genetic material

376
00:14:31,990 --> 00:14:29,040
but very common messages we are you know

377
00:14:33,990 --> 00:14:32,000
you are us we are you we are one

378
00:14:37,030 --> 00:14:34,000
i hear that all the time

379
00:14:39,910 --> 00:14:37,040
so that is a main agenda for sure

380
00:14:40,949 --> 00:14:39,920
another agenda is to warn us

381
00:14:44,470 --> 00:14:40,959
about

382
00:14:47,110 --> 00:14:44,480
our pathway towards self-destruction

383
00:14:48,870 --> 00:14:47,120
and this is super common i don't care if

384
00:14:50,470 --> 00:14:48,880
you're talking about the contact era of

385
00:14:52,550 --> 00:14:50,480
the 1950s

386
00:14:55,990 --> 00:14:52,560
with george adamski and truman bathroom

387
00:14:57,509 --> 00:14:56,000
and howard menger and all those guys

388
00:14:59,670 --> 00:14:57,519
daniel fry

389
00:15:01,189 --> 00:14:59,680
they're warning people about nuclear

390
00:15:03,269 --> 00:15:01,199
proliferation

391
00:15:05,430 --> 00:15:03,279
they're warning people about pollution

392
00:15:07,350 --> 00:15:05,440
about our war-like ways about greed and

393
00:15:08,710 --> 00:15:07,360
corruption about the destruction of the

394
00:15:11,269 --> 00:15:08,720
environment

395
00:15:13,509 --> 00:15:11,279
this is coming from graze it's coming

396
00:15:15,350 --> 00:15:13,519
from human-looking teas it's coming from

397
00:15:17,670 --> 00:15:15,360
praying mantis

398
00:15:20,310 --> 00:15:17,680
uh strange humanoids of all types this

399
00:15:22,790 --> 00:15:20,320
is the main message

400
00:15:24,790 --> 00:15:22,800
so that's an agenda

401
00:15:25,750 --> 00:15:24,800
that's often why they take people down

402
00:15:27,189 --> 00:15:25,760
to

403
00:15:32,710 --> 00:15:27,199
the

404
00:15:35,430 --> 00:15:32,720
fossil fuels that's not how we do it

405
00:15:38,310 --> 00:15:35,440
there are other energy sources out there

406
00:15:40,069 --> 00:15:38,320
um i i've heard this many times

407
00:15:41,430 --> 00:15:40,079
i did a whole study of people who've

408
00:15:43,509 --> 00:15:41,440
actually gotten pretty clear

409
00:15:45,749 --> 00:15:43,519
instructions and tried to build

410
00:15:47,829 --> 00:15:45,759
energy-free motors

411
00:15:50,230 --> 00:15:47,839
uh and this sort of thing so that's

412
00:15:52,389 --> 00:15:50,240
absolutely an agenda

413
00:15:54,470 --> 00:15:52,399
and i think in addition to that another

414
00:15:59,590 --> 00:15:54,480
major agenda is to

415
00:16:01,430 --> 00:15:59,600
wake us up to our own psychic abilities

416
00:16:03,430 --> 00:16:01,440
uh and i've heard this gosh three or

417
00:16:06,550 --> 00:16:03,440
four times the same exact words this is

418
00:16:07,509 --> 00:16:06,560
our gift to you for what you have given

419
00:16:09,829 --> 00:16:07,519
to us

420
00:16:11,269 --> 00:16:09,839
and they will awaken a person up

421
00:16:13,509 --> 00:16:11,279
spiritually

422
00:16:16,389 --> 00:16:13,519
they will allow you know teach them how

423
00:16:18,550 --> 00:16:16,399
to do perhaps astral travel

424
00:16:20,949 --> 00:16:18,560
hands-on healing

425
00:16:22,949 --> 00:16:20,959
i recently was like gosh

426
00:16:26,310 --> 00:16:22,959
i found like four or five

427
00:16:28,150 --> 00:16:26,320
contactees who physically levitated

428
00:16:30,230 --> 00:16:28,160
so i started looking into it and that

429
00:16:31,670 --> 00:16:30,240
happened to steven greer to whitley

430
00:16:33,990 --> 00:16:31,680
strieber

431
00:16:36,949 --> 00:16:34,000
ray hernandez has a case

432
00:16:38,230 --> 00:16:36,959
uh i talked to another guy i contacted

433
00:16:40,550 --> 00:16:38,240
i mentioned i'm like i don't suppose

434
00:16:43,269 --> 00:16:40,560
you've ever levitated like yes as a

435
00:16:44,629 --> 00:16:43,279
matter of fact i did and

436
00:16:46,790 --> 00:16:44,639
i mentioned this to dolly saffron

437
00:16:48,870 --> 00:16:46,800
subject to my latest book just kind of

438
00:16:51,030 --> 00:16:48,880
on a whim because she hadn't offered

439
00:16:52,949 --> 00:16:51,040
this information a lot of the times

440
00:16:56,069 --> 00:16:52,959
contactees are a bit tight-lipped about

441
00:16:58,230 --> 00:16:56,079
the stranger aspects of contact

442
00:17:00,550 --> 00:16:58,240
and she's had levitation but this just

443
00:17:02,710 --> 00:17:00,560
goes to point towards how

444
00:17:03,590 --> 00:17:02,720
very much the ets are trying to wake us

445
00:17:05,590 --> 00:17:03,600
up to

446
00:17:08,069 --> 00:17:05,600
our abilities of telepathy

447
00:17:09,429 --> 00:17:08,079
past life recall all of these things

448
00:17:12,710 --> 00:17:09,439
that we call

449
00:17:14,549 --> 00:17:12,720
superhuman or supernatural abilities

450
00:17:16,309 --> 00:17:14,559
which aren't they're not supernatural

451
00:17:18,390 --> 00:17:16,319
they're totally natural

452
00:17:21,510 --> 00:17:18,400
just we've been dumbed down and drugged

453
00:17:23,669 --> 00:17:21,520
up and enslaved and told

454
00:17:25,270 --> 00:17:23,679
distracted and there's a whole fear

455
00:17:27,270 --> 00:17:25,280
agenda in the media

456
00:17:29,350 --> 00:17:27,280
for that matter our governments are the

457
00:17:31,270 --> 00:17:29,360
one percenters

458
00:17:33,350 --> 00:17:31,280
the you know the food and drug

459
00:17:35,350 --> 00:17:33,360
what i call them

460
00:17:36,870 --> 00:17:35,360
military industrial complex the people

461
00:17:39,990 --> 00:17:36,880
behind the cover-up

462
00:17:43,190 --> 00:17:40,950
they are

463
00:17:45,029 --> 00:17:43,200
putting forth a false

464
00:17:47,909 --> 00:17:45,039
alien threat narrative they're not here

465
00:17:49,909 --> 00:17:47,919
to take over or hurt us

466
00:17:52,070 --> 00:17:49,919
i don't have any good evidence of that

467
00:17:52,950 --> 00:17:52,080
it can be very scary to be taken on

468
00:17:55,909 --> 00:17:52,960
board

469
00:17:57,510 --> 00:17:55,919
i am not going to tell people you know

470
00:17:59,029 --> 00:17:57,520
that your experience was positive when

471
00:18:02,390 --> 00:17:59,039
they're you know having nightmares and

472
00:18:04,950 --> 00:18:02,400
ptsd and didn't like it at all

473
00:18:07,830 --> 00:18:04,960
but the fact is i have pretty much zero

474
00:18:10,630 --> 00:18:07,840
cases of what i would call sadistic

475
00:18:13,350 --> 00:18:10,640
behavior or intentional

476
00:18:15,830 --> 00:18:13,360
infliction of pain or torture

477
00:18:18,310 --> 00:18:15,840
uh it's not like we do to each other

478
00:18:19,430 --> 00:18:18,320
right we kill people in large numbers

479
00:18:21,190 --> 00:18:19,440
daily

480
00:18:22,230 --> 00:18:21,200
they don't do that that's not their

481
00:18:23,990 --> 00:18:22,240
agenda

482
00:18:25,350 --> 00:18:24,000
they i mean any

483
00:18:27,270 --> 00:18:25,360
one who looks

484
00:18:30,789 --> 00:18:27,280
into the evidence for

485
00:18:32,390 --> 00:18:30,799
objectively for any period of time

486
00:18:33,909 --> 00:18:32,400
there's no evidence they're here to take

487
00:18:35,830 --> 00:18:33,919
us over they've been around for

488
00:18:38,230 --> 00:18:35,840
millennia

489
00:18:40,390 --> 00:18:38,240
they're not here to inflict pain or

490
00:18:44,630 --> 00:18:40,400
scare us or hurt us it's the opposite

491
00:18:46,070 --> 00:18:44,640
their agendas are basically to heal

492
00:18:47,350 --> 00:18:46,080
to guide

493
00:18:50,070 --> 00:18:47,360
to teach

494
00:18:54,950 --> 00:18:50,080
and to wake us up to who we are and what

495
00:19:00,470 --> 00:18:57,510
do you think the powers that be here on

496
00:19:01,590 --> 00:19:00,480
earth understand that

497
00:19:04,870 --> 00:19:01,600
oh yeah

498
00:19:07,430 --> 00:19:04,880
yeah i think they do i think to them

499
00:19:09,909 --> 00:19:07,440
it is an alien threat it's a threat a

500
00:19:11,830 --> 00:19:09,919
threat to their power structure sure

501
00:19:13,270 --> 00:19:11,840
it's a threat to their control over the

502
00:19:15,110 --> 00:19:13,280
masses

503
00:19:16,950 --> 00:19:15,120
it's a threat to the fact that if

504
00:19:18,470 --> 00:19:16,960
everyone woke up and realized wow we

505
00:19:20,390 --> 00:19:18,480
have friends out there you know we don't

506
00:19:22,070 --> 00:19:20,400
need to live the way we're living

507
00:19:23,590 --> 00:19:22,080
enslaved and

508
00:19:26,789 --> 00:19:23,600
so forth

509
00:19:28,630 --> 00:19:26,799
uh yeah they know all about this i think

510
00:19:29,909 --> 00:19:28,640
they know far more than the average

511
00:19:31,190 --> 00:19:29,919
person

512
00:19:32,950 --> 00:19:31,200
they've been studying and they have

513
00:19:34,950 --> 00:19:32,960
access to the hardware they have the

514
00:19:36,870 --> 00:19:34,960
craft they have the bodies

515
00:19:40,150 --> 00:19:36,880
i think they know exactly what's going

516
00:19:41,990 --> 00:19:40,160
on but from a military standpoint when

517
00:19:43,830 --> 00:19:42,000
you have these things shutting down our

518
00:19:47,270 --> 00:19:43,840
nuclear weapons

519
00:19:50,230 --> 00:19:47,280
such as monstrum incident not just one

520
00:19:53,110 --> 00:19:50,240
which i'm sure you've heard of

521
00:19:55,430 --> 00:19:53,120
this is from a military standpoint

522
00:19:57,029 --> 00:19:55,440
concerning to say the least

523
00:19:57,830 --> 00:19:57,039
for them

524
00:20:00,390 --> 00:19:57,840
but

525
00:20:02,549 --> 00:20:00,400
you know our

526
00:20:05,270 --> 00:20:02,559
the idea of using nuclear weapons to

527
00:20:08,149 --> 00:20:05,280
fight is so ludicrous

528
00:20:10,310 --> 00:20:08,159
it will kill everybody on this planet

529
00:20:12,789 --> 00:20:10,320
so this is not a threat this is them

530
00:20:15,510 --> 00:20:12,799
trying to say what are you doing

531
00:20:17,430 --> 00:20:15,520
it's a threat to yeah the

532
00:20:18,710 --> 00:20:17,440
military-industrial complex the secret

533
00:20:20,710 --> 00:20:18,720
government

534
00:20:22,789 --> 00:20:20,720
who is

535
00:20:24,950 --> 00:20:22,799
unable to control this phenomena unable

536
00:20:26,630 --> 00:20:24,960
to stop them from landing unable to stop

537
00:20:28,630 --> 00:20:26,640
them from contacting people and trying

538
00:20:31,750 --> 00:20:28,640
to wake them up

539
00:20:33,990 --> 00:20:31,760
so in that perspective

540
00:20:35,909 --> 00:20:34,000
i can see why they're upset about it and

541
00:20:37,590 --> 00:20:35,919
covering it up

542
00:20:39,029 --> 00:20:37,600
because it will

543
00:20:43,510 --> 00:20:39,039
take away their money and power and

544
00:20:48,470 --> 00:20:46,230
so go ahead go ahead and burn it

545
00:20:50,070 --> 00:20:48,480
so i have a question for you preston

546
00:20:52,789 --> 00:20:50,080
are you seeing more people who are

547
00:20:57,510 --> 00:20:52,799
having conscious experiences versus

548
00:20:57,520 --> 00:20:59,990
oof

549
00:21:03,830 --> 00:21:01,590
yeah

550
00:21:05,669 --> 00:21:03,840
that's a difficult question to answer um

551
00:21:07,590 --> 00:21:05,679
because i i would say that people who

552
00:21:10,070 --> 00:21:07,600
have missing time

553
00:21:11,669 --> 00:21:10,080
as a general rule do have conscious

554
00:21:15,190 --> 00:21:11,679
memories of you know waking up and see

555
00:21:16,950 --> 00:21:15,200
grades or what have you in their bedroom

556
00:21:18,789 --> 00:21:16,960
and then we'll have missing time and

557
00:21:20,230 --> 00:21:18,799
don't perhaps remember being taken on

558
00:21:22,870 --> 00:21:20,240
board

559
00:21:23,909 --> 00:21:22,880
but we'll sort of

560
00:21:27,029 --> 00:21:23,919
have

561
00:21:28,310 --> 00:21:27,039
dream recall or flashbacks or screen

562
00:21:30,470 --> 00:21:28,320
memories

563
00:21:31,990 --> 00:21:30,480
but yeah i think there is

564
00:21:35,110 --> 00:21:32,000
definitely

565
00:21:37,029 --> 00:21:35,120
an increase in people's waking up to the

566
00:21:38,950 --> 00:21:37,039
fact they are having contact

567
00:21:41,590 --> 00:21:38,960
for a couple of reasons

568
00:21:43,350 --> 00:21:41,600
uh one is that this subject is going

569
00:21:45,830 --> 00:21:43,360
mainstream

570
00:21:46,789 --> 00:21:45,840
people are now hearing it on the news i

571
00:21:48,470 --> 00:21:46,799
mean

572
00:21:50,470 --> 00:21:48,480
congress is talking about it and the

573
00:21:52,470 --> 00:21:50,480
pentagon said oh gosh you know this is

574
00:21:54,950 --> 00:21:52,480
or something to this

575
00:21:56,070 --> 00:21:54,960
i think that was the best result of this

576
00:21:58,470 --> 00:21:56,080
whole

577
00:22:00,310 --> 00:21:58,480
quote i'll put that in huge air quotes

578
00:22:02,630 --> 00:22:00,320
disclosure

579
00:22:05,190 --> 00:22:02,640
was that it started to get some people

580
00:22:06,789 --> 00:22:05,200
to question and another factor that we

581
00:22:08,310 --> 00:22:06,799
have going on here is contact is

582
00:22:10,630 --> 00:22:08,320
widespread

583
00:22:11,510 --> 00:22:10,640
it is not nearly as rare as you might

584
00:22:13,350 --> 00:22:11,520
think

585
00:22:14,470 --> 00:22:13,360
you're much more likely to be taken on

586
00:22:17,430 --> 00:22:14,480
board than

587
00:22:20,149 --> 00:22:17,440
say struck by lightning or

588
00:22:21,270 --> 00:22:20,159
die of beasting or bit by a shark or

589
00:22:25,110 --> 00:22:21,280
murdered

590
00:22:27,350 --> 00:22:25,120
it's about 1 in 40 perhaps this is a

591
00:22:28,950 --> 00:22:27,360
quote by jl and highneck

592
00:22:30,789 --> 00:22:28,960
uh i did a whole survey of all the

593
00:22:32,470 --> 00:22:30,799
researchers when i heard that quote

594
00:22:34,549 --> 00:22:32,480
cause i'm like no way

595
00:22:36,070 --> 00:22:34,559
one are you kidding me 1 in 40. i know

596
00:22:37,510 --> 00:22:36,080
someone i would know someone who's been

597
00:22:39,350 --> 00:22:37,520
taken on board

598
00:22:42,710 --> 00:22:39,360
and it got me to ask everyone and sure

599
00:22:44,950 --> 00:22:42,720
enough i i knew like four or five people

600
00:22:46,390 --> 00:22:44,960
in my little circle of family friends

601
00:22:48,470 --> 00:22:46,400
and co-workers

602
00:22:50,630 --> 00:22:48,480
it was just a year later the roper

603
00:22:52,950 --> 00:22:50,640
polling organization

604
00:22:54,390 --> 00:22:52,960
uh did a poll on this and found one in

605
00:22:57,270 --> 00:22:54,400
50.

606
00:22:58,870 --> 00:22:57,280
so this is another reason why i think

607
00:23:00,390 --> 00:22:58,880
people are becoming far more conscious

608
00:23:02,549 --> 00:23:00,400
of what's going on we know what the

609
00:23:05,110 --> 00:23:02,559
signs of contact are now

610
00:23:06,710 --> 00:23:05,120
if you've had a close close-up ufo

611
00:23:09,830 --> 00:23:06,720
sighting

612
00:23:12,870 --> 00:23:09,840
that is a huge red flag i mean within a

613
00:23:14,870 --> 00:23:12,880
couple of hundred feet a thousand feet

614
00:23:17,750 --> 00:23:14,880
if you have multiple sightings if you've

615
00:23:20,070 --> 00:23:17,760
had unexplained scars on your body

616
00:23:24,310 --> 00:23:20,080
uh if you've had you know

617
00:23:26,310 --> 00:23:24,320
orbs of light you suffer from

618
00:23:29,029 --> 00:23:26,320
fear of intruders are putting locks on

619
00:23:30,710 --> 00:23:29,039
your door and if you have tinnitus i

620
00:23:32,390 --> 00:23:30,720
mean there's a whole list of little

621
00:23:34,310 --> 00:23:32,400
things that you can look towards

622
00:23:35,750 --> 00:23:34,320
pointing towards contact

623
00:23:36,870 --> 00:23:35,760
and these are becoming more well-known

624
00:23:38,870 --> 00:23:36,880
so people are starting to really

625
00:23:40,789 --> 00:23:38,880
question things like well gosh you know

626
00:23:42,549 --> 00:23:40,799
i had things coming into my room when i

627
00:23:45,110 --> 00:23:42,559
was a little child

628
00:23:48,390 --> 00:23:45,120
that's another big red flag

629
00:23:50,549 --> 00:23:48,400
so yeah bernadette i think yes people

630
00:23:52,549 --> 00:23:50,559
are really beginning to wake up

631
00:23:53,990 --> 00:23:52,559
and once you start waking up to contact

632
00:23:55,990 --> 00:23:54,000
and considering that's when you start

633
00:24:00,149 --> 00:23:56,000
having not so much missing time but a

634
00:24:07,070 --> 00:24:04,149
that's very fascinating yeah

635
00:24:11,190 --> 00:24:07,080
do you think that the government or the

636
00:24:13,909 --> 00:24:11,200
military or whoever on this planet

637
00:24:15,990 --> 00:24:13,919
or are

638
00:24:19,029 --> 00:24:16,000
our earth plane

639
00:24:21,630 --> 00:24:19,039
do you think they like keeping it uh

640
00:24:24,630 --> 00:24:21,640
the whole alien ufo subject on a

641
00:24:27,110 --> 00:24:24,640
conspiratorial level

642
00:24:29,430 --> 00:24:27,120
oof i sure

643
00:24:31,430 --> 00:24:29,440
i wish i knew for sure from what i

644
00:24:33,830 --> 00:24:31,440
understand you know this is not

645
00:24:35,830 --> 00:24:33,840
really my area of expertise i'm usually

646
00:24:37,430 --> 00:24:35,840
focused on contactees

647
00:24:39,269 --> 00:24:37,440
i try to follow all this because boy

648
00:24:40,630 --> 00:24:39,279
this subject has layers and layers and

649
00:24:42,630 --> 00:24:40,640
rabbit holes

650
00:24:45,110 --> 00:24:42,640
uh there's no doubt there's a cover up

651
00:24:47,750 --> 00:24:45,120
i'll say that flat off the bat i mean

652
00:24:49,909 --> 00:24:47,760
it's demonstrable it's provable

653
00:24:52,230 --> 00:24:49,919
this is not speculation

654
00:24:55,029 --> 00:24:52,240
and i think that this is a policy they

655
00:24:57,590 --> 00:24:55,039
adopted from the very beginning

656
00:24:59,430 --> 00:24:57,600
and uh because they were so freaked out

657
00:25:02,070 --> 00:24:59,440
incidents like roswell and the aztec

658
00:25:03,750 --> 00:25:02,080
crash in the battle of l.a and cape

659
00:25:05,870 --> 00:25:03,760
girardeau

660
00:25:09,590 --> 00:25:05,880
crash retrieval incident that was like

661
00:25:11,110 --> 00:25:09,600
1942 or something 41.

662
00:25:12,789 --> 00:25:11,120
so from the beginning they were covering

663
00:25:14,470 --> 00:25:12,799
this up and i think that they really

664
00:25:15,590 --> 00:25:14,480
wanted to because they didn't understand

665
00:25:33,029 --> 00:25:15,600
it

666
00:25:34,710 --> 00:25:33,039
and that there's something of a

667
00:25:36,470 --> 00:25:34,720
you know push-pull a little bit of a

668
00:25:39,029 --> 00:25:36,480
tug-of-war between

669
00:25:40,230 --> 00:25:39,039
the old guard and the new guard

670
00:25:43,029 --> 00:25:40,240
uh

671
00:25:45,669 --> 00:25:43,039
the people who are you know

672
00:25:47,750 --> 00:25:45,679
slowly dying off now

673
00:25:48,950 --> 00:25:47,760
um are the ones who want to keep it

674
00:25:50,630 --> 00:25:48,960
secret

675
00:25:51,990 --> 00:25:50,640
uh we have an enormous number of

676
00:25:53,350 --> 00:25:52,000
whistleblowers

677
00:25:55,269 --> 00:25:53,360
who have worked

678
00:25:57,110 --> 00:25:55,279
within this

679
00:26:00,070 --> 00:25:57,120
community

680
00:26:02,950 --> 00:26:00,080
who are coming forward and saying listen

681
00:26:05,510 --> 00:26:02,960
i cannot go to my grave knowing this

682
00:26:07,269 --> 00:26:05,520
information is being covered up

683
00:26:09,590 --> 00:26:07,279
so i think there's a lot of them who are

684
00:26:11,110 --> 00:26:09,600
very unhappy with how the subject is

685
00:26:13,510 --> 00:26:11,120
being treated

686
00:26:16,710 --> 00:26:13,520
and these are people with high high

687
00:26:18,950 --> 00:26:16,720
levels of you know in the military

688
00:26:20,630 --> 00:26:18,960
we're talking you know look at colonel

689
00:26:22,870 --> 00:26:20,640
corso

690
00:26:25,590 --> 00:26:22,880
uh the day after roswell

691
00:26:27,669 --> 00:26:25,600
he's just one example of

692
00:26:29,350 --> 00:26:27,679
quite literally thousands i mean there

693
00:26:31,830 --> 00:26:29,360
are many many hundreds for sure but i

694
00:26:34,549 --> 00:26:31,840
think it's closer to thousands

695
00:26:36,789 --> 00:26:34,559
of people who are like i'm done

696
00:26:38,710 --> 00:26:36,799
i talked to a guy myself who actually

697
00:26:40,070 --> 00:26:38,720
contacted me on his deathbed in a

698
00:26:43,029 --> 00:26:40,080
hospital

699
00:26:44,070 --> 00:26:43,039
who was a civilian contractor

700
00:26:48,149 --> 00:26:44,080
and

701
00:26:49,190 --> 00:26:48,159
boy did my ears perk up when he said

702
00:26:50,870 --> 00:26:49,200
edwards

703
00:26:53,990 --> 00:26:50,880
because if you know this subject you

704
00:26:56,710 --> 00:26:54,000
know about the 1954 meeting at edwards

705
00:26:59,830 --> 00:26:56,720
with eisenhower and the et's

706
00:27:01,350 --> 00:26:59,840
the 1965 incident where the ufos came

707
00:27:03,990 --> 00:27:01,360
down over edwards and were caught on

708
00:27:05,990 --> 00:27:04,000
raid radar and buzzed that base all

709
00:27:07,830 --> 00:27:06,000
night long i mean there's a hundred

710
00:27:09,669 --> 00:27:07,840
cases over edwards

711
00:27:10,950 --> 00:27:09,679
and in a nutshell

712
00:27:13,669 --> 00:27:10,960
this guy was

713
00:27:16,070 --> 00:27:13,679
on an employment job at edwards and was

714
00:27:17,510 --> 00:27:16,080
walking across the tarmac there with his

715
00:27:18,630 --> 00:27:17,520
employer

716
00:27:20,710 --> 00:27:18,640
when

717
00:27:22,149 --> 00:27:20,720
he passed a hangar and heard this low

718
00:27:24,230 --> 00:27:22,159
buzzing noise and looks in the open

719
00:27:26,950 --> 00:27:24,240
window and there's a ufo

720
00:27:28,950 --> 00:27:26,960
floating levitating says it was the size

721
00:27:30,470 --> 00:27:28,960
of a small sports car

722
00:27:32,149 --> 00:27:30,480
perfectly silver

723
00:27:34,149 --> 00:27:32,159
saucer shaped

724
00:27:36,870 --> 00:27:34,159
turns to his implants says what the heck

725
00:27:38,470 --> 00:27:36,880
is that his employer puts his finger

726
00:27:39,990 --> 00:27:38,480
over his lips and says shh

727
00:27:42,789 --> 00:27:40,000
you know i can't talk about it and

728
00:27:44,789 --> 00:27:42,799
became very angry when he persisted

729
00:27:46,230 --> 00:27:44,799
and that's where it remained for over a

730
00:27:48,789 --> 00:27:46,240
year until

731
00:27:50,870 --> 00:27:48,799
the job was done a year went by and the

732
00:27:52,950 --> 00:27:50,880
same employer called him back said it's

733
00:27:53,990 --> 00:27:52,960
an emergency i need you for a job right

734
00:27:56,230 --> 00:27:54,000
now

735
00:27:57,510 --> 00:27:56,240
can you please please do it and the guy

736
00:27:59,430 --> 00:27:57,520
interviewed said no

737
00:28:02,389 --> 00:27:59,440
i'm not doing it unless you told me what

738
00:28:05,110 --> 00:28:02,399
we tell me what we saw that day

739
00:28:06,549 --> 00:28:05,120
last year in that hangar

740
00:28:07,430 --> 00:28:06,559
and as the player said okay i'll tell

741
00:28:09,430 --> 00:28:07,440
you but

742
00:28:11,190 --> 00:28:09,440
you know after they got drunk together

743
00:28:13,669 --> 00:28:11,200
[Music]

744
00:28:14,830 --> 00:28:13,679
this is okay i'll tell you but you

745
00:28:18,070 --> 00:28:14,840
can't tell

746
00:28:19,990 --> 00:28:18,080
anybody and he said that what you saw

747
00:28:22,470 --> 00:28:20,000
was not a ufo

748
00:28:24,549 --> 00:28:22,480
it was not an alien spacecraft it was

749
00:28:26,789 --> 00:28:24,559
reversed engineered from

750
00:28:29,830 --> 00:28:26,799
extraterrestrial technology

751
00:28:32,230 --> 00:28:29,840
it was a craft that used the concept

752
00:28:33,510 --> 00:28:32,240
or a divide by counter rotating magnetic

753
00:28:36,950 --> 00:28:33,520
fields

754
00:28:39,029 --> 00:28:36,960
which created a magnetic field

755
00:28:42,470 --> 00:28:39,039
outside the craft which would propel it

756
00:28:44,630 --> 00:28:42,480
in the desired direction

757
00:28:45,990 --> 00:28:44,640
so that's just one cover-up story i

758
00:28:47,750 --> 00:28:46,000
talked to a guy who was involved in the

759
00:28:49,669 --> 00:28:47,760
mound stream incident

760
00:28:51,510 --> 00:28:49,679
he heard it on tv he's like oh i guess i

761
00:28:54,149 --> 00:28:51,520
can talk now

762
00:28:56,310 --> 00:28:54,159
he's also very elderly mel henson so a

763
00:28:57,750 --> 00:28:56,320
lot of these guys are you know literally

764
00:28:59,830 --> 00:28:57,760
on their way out

765
00:29:01,590 --> 00:28:59,840
say i'm not taking this to my grave

766
00:29:03,350 --> 00:29:01,600
people need to know

767
00:29:04,789 --> 00:29:03,360
yeah i think there's a lot of people

768
00:29:09,430 --> 00:29:04,799
within the cover-up

769
00:29:15,190 --> 00:29:12,070
do you do you get frustrated by some of

770
00:29:16,789 --> 00:29:15,200
the and i talked about conspiratorial

771
00:29:17,830 --> 00:29:16,799
um

772
00:29:21,029 --> 00:29:17,840
uh

773
00:29:22,149 --> 00:29:21,039
parts of the ufology and aliens and such

774
00:29:24,870 --> 00:29:22,159
and um

775
00:29:26,710 --> 00:29:24,880
like people who claim to be part are

776
00:29:29,029 --> 00:29:26,720
super soldiers are part of the secret

777
00:29:31,590 --> 00:29:29,039
space program and that type of thing

778
00:29:34,630 --> 00:29:31,600
does it frustrate you as a researcher

779
00:29:37,029 --> 00:29:34,640
and investigator that this type of um

780
00:29:38,149 --> 00:29:37,039
and i think a lot of it's nonsense but

781
00:29:42,630 --> 00:29:38,159
does it

782
00:29:44,310 --> 00:29:42,640
lot of this that just is so much so much

783
00:29:46,310 --> 00:29:44,320
conjecture and

784
00:29:49,269 --> 00:29:46,320
nothing that can be proved

785
00:29:50,389 --> 00:29:49,279
oh to no end yeah um it's very

786
00:29:51,990 --> 00:29:50,399
frustrating

787
00:29:53,350 --> 00:29:52,000
if you go on you know facebook and on

788
00:29:56,149 --> 00:29:53,360
these facebook groups there's an

789
00:29:58,070 --> 00:29:56,159
enormous amount of cgi and look look

790
00:30:01,190 --> 00:29:58,080
there's an alien running across

791
00:30:03,990 --> 00:30:01,200
mars i'm like wait a second

792
00:30:06,070 --> 00:30:04,000
you cannot be a super soldier on mars

793
00:30:09,510 --> 00:30:06,080
if you know anything about science study

794
00:30:12,070 --> 00:30:09,520
mars you'll see it has no magnetic field

795
00:30:15,430 --> 00:30:12,080
you cannot live there it's impossible

796
00:30:16,470 --> 00:30:15,440
you will be fried by gamma radiation

797
00:30:17,669 --> 00:30:16,480
so

798
00:30:19,110 --> 00:30:17,679
you know i

799
00:30:20,870 --> 00:30:19,120
i'm not going to name names but there's

800
00:30:22,549 --> 00:30:20,880
some researchers and contactees out

801
00:30:25,029 --> 00:30:22,559
there i'm like what are you talking

802
00:30:28,070 --> 00:30:25,039
about where's the evidence this is i

803
00:30:31,029 --> 00:30:28,080
have never heard anything like this

804
00:30:33,909 --> 00:30:31,039
from the people i'm talking to

805
00:30:36,070 --> 00:30:33,919
uh i don't know i can't say

806
00:30:38,310 --> 00:30:36,080
that there's not something to some of

807
00:30:40,310 --> 00:30:38,320
this because i know we are flying some

808
00:30:42,230 --> 00:30:40,320
of these craft around it's clear we have

809
00:30:43,909 --> 00:30:42,240
reverse engineered some of this the

810
00:30:45,669 --> 00:30:43,919
tr-3b

811
00:30:47,990 --> 00:30:45,679
is pretty much

812
00:30:49,909 --> 00:30:48,000
accepted within the ufo community that

813
00:30:51,830 --> 00:30:49,919
we have some of this technology and are

814
00:30:53,830 --> 00:30:51,840
flying it around

815
00:30:55,590 --> 00:30:53,840
so that's very concerning and remember

816
00:30:57,990 --> 00:30:55,600
gary mckinnon

817
00:31:00,310 --> 00:30:58,000
um he's the guy from england i think who

818
00:31:03,430 --> 00:31:00,320
right hacked into nasa

819
00:31:05,269 --> 00:31:03,440
that i thought was a probably legit

820
00:31:05,990 --> 00:31:05,279
i can't say for sure

821
00:31:08,950 --> 00:31:06,000
but

822
00:31:11,750 --> 00:31:08,960
he found some files which point towards

823
00:31:12,470 --> 00:31:11,760
government programs with this right so i

824
00:31:14,789 --> 00:31:12,480
think

825
00:31:16,310 --> 00:31:14,799
i mean it's just a logical extension

826
00:31:18,789 --> 00:31:16,320
that

827
00:31:22,149 --> 00:31:18,799
our government would be

828
00:31:23,669 --> 00:31:22,159
pursuing these avenues intently and

829
00:31:26,389 --> 00:31:23,679
intensely

830
00:31:27,110 --> 00:31:26,399
so i'm sure there's something to it

831
00:31:28,630 --> 00:31:27,120
but

832
00:31:30,470 --> 00:31:28,640
we know

833
00:31:31,830 --> 00:31:30,480
because there have been whistleblowers

834
00:31:34,470 --> 00:31:31,840
have come out and said it whether it's

835
00:31:35,990 --> 00:31:34,480
william moore or richard dodie or who

836
00:31:38,070 --> 00:31:36,000
what have you

837
00:31:40,789 --> 00:31:38,080
who have fed disinformation and

838
00:31:42,149 --> 00:31:40,799
misinformation to ufo researchers flat

839
00:31:44,549 --> 00:31:42,159
out

840
00:31:47,669 --> 00:31:44,559
there is a strong campaign

841
00:31:49,830 --> 00:31:47,679
got to remember our secret government

842
00:31:52,630 --> 00:31:49,840
has unlimited funds

843
00:31:54,630 --> 00:31:52,640
they are spending our tax dollars

844
00:31:55,909 --> 00:31:54,640
and have an enormous amount of time

845
00:31:57,029 --> 00:31:55,919
money and effort

846
00:31:58,149 --> 00:31:57,039
to

847
00:32:01,509 --> 00:31:58,159
debunk

848
00:32:03,669 --> 00:32:01,519
legitimate cases to tell all witnesses

849
00:32:05,669 --> 00:32:03,679
you are either hoaxing hallucinating or

850
00:32:08,389 --> 00:32:05,679
misperceiving

851
00:32:11,669 --> 00:32:08,399
uh to muddy the waters in every single

852
00:32:13,190 --> 00:32:11,679
way they can this is serious stuff

853
00:32:15,110 --> 00:32:13,200
you know leonard stringfield the crash

854
00:32:16,630 --> 00:32:15,120
retrieval researcher

855
00:32:18,389 --> 00:32:16,640
he's talked to a number of people who

856
00:32:20,230 --> 00:32:18,399
are like right there when these things

857
00:32:21,990 --> 00:32:20,240
come down and

858
00:32:24,070 --> 00:32:22,000
they some of them who have gone forward

859
00:32:26,470 --> 00:32:24,080
have lost their lives

860
00:32:29,110 --> 00:32:26,480
this is serious stuff this cover-up is

861
00:32:29,990 --> 00:32:29,120
not a joke

862
00:32:32,149 --> 00:32:30,000
so

863
00:32:33,430 --> 00:32:32,159
yeah we have lost a lot of researchers

864
00:32:35,110 --> 00:32:33,440
over the years

865
00:32:37,430 --> 00:32:35,120
absolutely under

866
00:32:38,549 --> 00:32:37,440
nefarious situations

867
00:32:40,549 --> 00:32:38,559
um

868
00:32:42,549 --> 00:32:40,559
yeah people talk about james forrestal

869
00:32:44,389 --> 00:32:42,559
did he really jump out of that window or

870
00:32:45,990 --> 00:32:44,399
was he pushed right

871
00:32:47,750 --> 00:32:46,000
exactly

872
00:32:49,590 --> 00:32:47,760
it's pretty upsetting it's very

873
00:32:51,430 --> 00:32:49,600
frustrating and i'm

874
00:32:53,669 --> 00:32:51,440
very upset with how

875
00:32:54,870 --> 00:32:53,679
our government and governments across

876
00:32:57,909 --> 00:32:54,880
the world

877
00:32:59,509 --> 00:32:57,919
are handling the ufo situation

878
00:33:01,029 --> 00:32:59,519
uh it's

879
00:33:03,029 --> 00:33:01,039
certainly not it's against our

880
00:33:05,029 --> 00:33:03,039
constitution here in the u.s

881
00:33:07,269 --> 00:33:05,039
absolutely

882
00:33:10,950 --> 00:33:07,279
they have no right to withhold this

883
00:33:13,830 --> 00:33:10,960
information this technology

884
00:33:16,710 --> 00:33:13,840
we don't need oil anymore and they're

885
00:33:19,029 --> 00:33:16,720
withholding it for money

886
00:33:20,549 --> 00:33:19,039
and power and control

887
00:33:21,909 --> 00:33:20,559
i mean there's a million reasons behind

888
00:33:23,909 --> 00:33:21,919
the cover-up but ultimately i think

889
00:33:27,029 --> 00:33:23,919
that's what it comes down to money and

890
00:33:29,750 --> 00:33:27,039
power and control absolutely absolutely

891
00:33:33,590 --> 00:33:29,760
that's what it is

892
00:33:35,029 --> 00:33:33,600
yeah it's so upsetting because

893
00:33:36,950 --> 00:33:35,039
i mean we could solve

894
00:33:38,870 --> 00:33:36,960
the so-called energy crisis which is

895
00:33:40,870 --> 00:33:38,880
manufactured

896
00:33:44,630 --> 00:33:40,880
the environmental crisis does not need

897
00:33:46,230 --> 00:33:44,640
to exist the economic crisis is another

898
00:33:47,990 --> 00:33:46,240
manufactured thing

899
00:33:49,430 --> 00:33:48,000
there's enough for everybody there truly

900
00:33:50,950 --> 00:33:49,440
is yeah

901
00:33:53,669 --> 00:33:50,960
and to know that

902
00:33:56,470 --> 00:33:53,679
like 98 percent of the wealth 99 is

903
00:33:59,269 --> 00:33:56,480
owned by one percent of the population

904
00:34:01,110 --> 00:33:59,279
that makes zero sense

905
00:34:04,470 --> 00:34:01,120
um i mean this

906
00:34:06,470 --> 00:34:04,480
is a situation that's untenable

907
00:34:09,510 --> 00:34:06,480
and i think that's the

908
00:34:10,869 --> 00:34:09,520
reason behind widespread contact

909
00:34:13,750 --> 00:34:10,879
is because

910
00:34:15,349 --> 00:34:13,760
et's are like you humans are crazy

911
00:34:17,349 --> 00:34:15,359
wake up

912
00:34:18,869 --> 00:34:17,359
elect world leaders that will actually

913
00:34:22,550 --> 00:34:18,879
lead

914
00:34:25,190 --> 00:34:22,560
it's oh i love this photo robert rinker

915
00:34:27,190 --> 00:34:25,200
i know about this one

916
00:34:28,710 --> 00:34:27,200
there's there's a lot of good good

917
00:34:33,349 --> 00:34:28,720
photographs out there this is one i

918
00:34:36,710 --> 00:34:34,470
interesting

919
00:34:39,109 --> 00:34:36,720
yeah

920
00:34:42,869 --> 00:34:41,430
getting a personal side have you ever

921
00:34:44,470 --> 00:34:42,879
had an encounter

922
00:34:46,829 --> 00:34:44,480
now i know you you state that your

923
00:34:49,510 --> 00:34:46,839
family has but have you ever had an

924
00:34:51,190 --> 00:34:49,520
account yeah when i first found out ufos

925
00:34:53,349 --> 00:34:51,200
were real the first thing i did was like

926
00:34:55,109 --> 00:34:53,359
have i ever had missing time

927
00:34:56,629 --> 00:34:55,119
you know have i seen anything i started

928
00:34:58,550 --> 00:34:56,639
scouring

929
00:35:00,790 --> 00:34:58,560
my childhood

930
00:35:02,870 --> 00:35:00,800
and there was one possible instance of

931
00:35:04,230 --> 00:35:02,880
missing time but it's too big for me to

932
00:35:05,510 --> 00:35:04,240
really say

933
00:35:07,510 --> 00:35:05,520
but you know i got involved in this

934
00:35:10,390 --> 00:35:07,520
field in 86

935
00:35:11,829 --> 00:35:10,400
really buckled down in 88

936
00:35:13,349 --> 00:35:11,839
and uh

937
00:35:15,349 --> 00:35:13,359
i'm like you know what this is driving

938
00:35:16,790 --> 00:35:15,359
me nutty i need to go out there and see

939
00:35:18,950 --> 00:35:16,800
one i

940
00:35:19,990 --> 00:35:18,960
this is crazy

941
00:35:21,910 --> 00:35:20,000
all these people are single and i want

942
00:35:24,069 --> 00:35:21,920
to see one myself so i went out in the

943
00:35:25,349 --> 00:35:24,079
fields at night

944
00:35:26,950 --> 00:35:25,359
whenever anyone said they saw and i'm

945
00:35:28,470 --> 00:35:26,960
like can i come over

946
00:35:29,910 --> 00:35:28,480
could i camp outside your house you know

947
00:35:31,109 --> 00:35:29,920
i'll be in the back there i won't bother

948
00:35:33,349 --> 00:35:31,119
you

949
00:35:36,470 --> 00:35:33,359
and i started to have sightings

950
00:35:37,670 --> 00:35:36,480
uh 1992 was my big year

951
00:35:40,150 --> 00:35:37,680
and uh

952
00:35:42,550 --> 00:35:40,160
i think the real first major encounter

953
00:35:45,190 --> 00:35:42,560
was missing time for sure

954
00:35:47,270 --> 00:35:45,200
i was driving home this is july 1992

955
00:35:50,390 --> 00:35:47,280
i'll never forget it

956
00:35:51,750 --> 00:35:50,400
uh and i just left my brother's house

957
00:35:55,270 --> 00:35:51,760
my brother had seen a ufo and my

958
00:35:58,790 --> 00:35:56,950
and it's literally like three minutes

959
00:36:01,990 --> 00:35:58,800
from the house this is in woodland hills

960
00:36:03,349 --> 00:36:02,000
california and this orb dropped on out

961
00:36:05,349 --> 00:36:03,359
of the sky

962
00:36:07,510 --> 00:36:05,359
i first thought ah it's a bird oh my

963
00:36:09,109 --> 00:36:07,520
gosh it's late at night and it's glowing

964
00:36:11,190 --> 00:36:09,119
like well it's a firecracker because i'm

965
00:36:12,790 --> 00:36:11,200
thinking well it's you know late july

966
00:36:14,630 --> 00:36:12,800
but it wasn't a firecracker this thing

967
00:36:16,950 --> 00:36:14,640
dropped down from my windshield it was

968
00:36:18,630 --> 00:36:16,960
like a golf ball a little bigger

969
00:36:20,710 --> 00:36:18,640
and above the way part of the way is i

970
00:36:21,750 --> 00:36:20,720
am from the computer now and hovered

971
00:36:23,829 --> 00:36:21,760
there

972
00:36:25,670 --> 00:36:23,839
and looked at me

973
00:36:28,230 --> 00:36:25,680
and kind of went back and forth back and

974
00:36:30,390 --> 00:36:28,240
forth and shot straight up

975
00:36:32,390 --> 00:36:30,400
and the weirdest thing is i completely

976
00:36:33,750 --> 00:36:32,400
forgot it i did not remember the

977
00:36:35,990 --> 00:36:33,760
sighting

978
00:36:38,630 --> 00:36:36,000
i don't remember driving home i remember

979
00:36:43,589 --> 00:36:41,510
so i a few months later remembered it

980
00:36:44,870 --> 00:36:43,599
i think i had missing time i'm pretty

981
00:36:46,710 --> 00:36:44,880
darn sure of it because i would have

982
00:36:48,950 --> 00:36:46,720
turned around

983
00:36:51,030 --> 00:36:48,960
but that's when i had another sighting a

984
00:36:53,109 --> 00:36:51,040
few months later again with my brother

985
00:36:54,710 --> 00:36:53,119
mark and his wife christy up in crater

986
00:36:56,470 --> 00:36:54,720
lake

987
00:36:58,950 --> 00:36:56,480
where we blinked a flashlight at this

988
00:37:02,150 --> 00:36:58,960
object and it blinked back twice we're

989
00:37:05,349 --> 00:37:02,160
it's crazy i joined sea seti a month

990
00:37:07,670 --> 00:37:05,359
later with steven greer we went out

991
00:37:09,829 --> 00:37:07,680
that night and had a sighting i could

992
00:37:10,870 --> 00:37:09,839
not believe it

993
00:37:13,510 --> 00:37:10,880
and

994
00:37:14,710 --> 00:37:13,520
had a number of sightings that year

995
00:37:17,190 --> 00:37:14,720
and it just kind of snowballed from

996
00:37:18,310 --> 00:37:17,200
there so yeah i definitely had some

997
00:37:21,190 --> 00:37:18,320
crazy

998
00:37:23,750 --> 00:37:21,200
close-up encounters

999
00:37:25,829 --> 00:37:23,760
so do you think that

1000
00:37:27,750 --> 00:37:25,839
there was something that made it that

1001
00:37:29,990 --> 00:37:27,760
year for you to have all those

1002
00:37:31,589 --> 00:37:30,000
experiences like

1003
00:37:33,030 --> 00:37:31,599
in all your research how do you think

1004
00:37:35,270 --> 00:37:33,040
that they pick

1005
00:37:38,390 --> 00:37:35,280
who they're going to abduct

1006
00:37:41,829 --> 00:37:38,400
or who they're going to let see them

1007
00:37:43,589 --> 00:37:41,839
yeah that drove me crazy for a while and

1008
00:37:45,589 --> 00:37:43,599
at some point after i had a big enough

1009
00:37:47,510 --> 00:37:45,599
database i'm like let's look let's see

1010
00:37:50,230 --> 00:37:47,520
if i can find any patterns because it

1011
00:37:53,270 --> 00:37:50,240
was evenly divided between men and women

1012
00:37:54,870 --> 00:37:53,280
it was not anything to do with religion

1013
00:37:57,510 --> 00:37:54,880
or race

1014
00:37:59,910 --> 00:37:57,520
not well not race let me say ancestry

1015
00:38:01,910 --> 00:37:59,920
because we're all one race okay

1016
00:38:05,030 --> 00:38:01,920
and it's not you know whether you're

1017
00:38:07,430 --> 00:38:05,040
white or black or asian or what have you

1018
00:38:09,430 --> 00:38:07,440
uh latino and so forth

1019
00:38:11,030 --> 00:38:09,440
what wasn't education it's not blood

1020
00:38:12,390 --> 00:38:11,040
type i started asking are you rh

1021
00:38:14,069 --> 00:38:12,400
negative no

1022
00:38:16,150 --> 00:38:14,079
yes you know some are

1023
00:38:17,910 --> 00:38:16,160
don't know their blood type i couldn't

1024
00:38:19,270 --> 00:38:17,920
find any darn patterns for the longest

1025
00:38:21,030 --> 00:38:19,280
time

1026
00:38:24,230 --> 00:38:21,040
it became pretty clear i should say from

1027
00:38:27,030 --> 00:38:24,240
the outset that if you have a

1028
00:38:29,510 --> 00:38:27,040
contact like taken on board

1029
00:38:30,710 --> 00:38:29,520
your parents probably have or an aunt or

1030
00:38:32,550 --> 00:38:30,720
an uncle

1031
00:38:33,270 --> 00:38:32,560
or a grandmother

1032
00:38:34,950 --> 00:38:33,280
so

1033
00:38:38,310 --> 00:38:34,960
that is a pattern

1034
00:38:40,550 --> 00:38:38,320
this follows family lines

1035
00:38:42,550 --> 00:38:40,560
and their researchers have cases

1036
00:38:45,109 --> 00:38:42,560
stretching back multiple generations

1037
00:38:48,069 --> 00:38:45,119
three four five or more

1038
00:38:49,589 --> 00:38:48,079
so that is absolutely a pattern

1039
00:38:52,069 --> 00:38:49,599
another pattern is like who are they

1040
00:38:53,030 --> 00:38:52,079
contacting people who

1041
00:38:55,829 --> 00:38:53,040
are

1042
00:38:57,990 --> 00:38:55,839
for lack of a better word psychic

1043
00:39:00,069 --> 00:38:58,000
because very early on i started

1044
00:39:01,270 --> 00:39:00,079
i learned interview techniques i wasn't

1045
00:39:03,190 --> 00:39:01,280
that good in the beginning you know i

1046
00:39:05,030 --> 00:39:03,200
just started asking very specific

1047
00:39:06,870 --> 00:39:05,040
questions i learned to leave it open and

1048
00:39:07,829 --> 00:39:06,880
just let them talk

1049
00:39:09,990 --> 00:39:07,839
and i'd say you know have you

1050
00:39:12,390 --> 00:39:10,000
experienced anything strange

1051
00:39:13,589 --> 00:39:12,400
and they'd start talking from ufos and

1052
00:39:14,870 --> 00:39:13,599
many of them have had near-death

1053
00:39:19,190 --> 00:39:14,880
experiences

1054
00:39:21,589 --> 00:39:19,200
astral travel clairvoyance precognition

1055
00:39:24,790 --> 00:39:21,599
this is part of this

1056
00:39:25,910 --> 00:39:24,800
as a general rule contactees have a

1057
00:39:28,150 --> 00:39:25,920
higher

1058
00:39:29,829 --> 00:39:28,160
psychic awareness it's not unusual for

1059
00:39:32,630 --> 00:39:29,839
them to be mediums

1060
00:39:34,550 --> 00:39:32,640
it's not unusual for them to experience

1061
00:39:37,270 --> 00:39:34,560
an entire range

1062
00:39:39,750 --> 00:39:37,280
of psychonauts so that's a pattern

1063
00:39:42,069 --> 00:39:39,760
and another panics i really focused on

1064
00:39:44,069 --> 00:39:42,079
ufo healing cases at one point that was

1065
00:39:45,750 --> 00:39:44,079
my first book i found 100 cases i

1066
00:39:47,589 --> 00:39:45,760
couldn't believe it like why is no one

1067
00:39:49,990 --> 00:39:47,599
talking about this

1068
00:39:52,150 --> 00:39:50,000
and i recently put out another book the

1069
00:39:54,470 --> 00:39:52,160
healing power of ufos because i have now

1070
00:39:56,630 --> 00:39:54,480
like 300 documented cases

1071
00:39:57,990 --> 00:39:56,640
like why are these people being healed

1072
00:39:59,349 --> 00:39:58,000
why not me you know i could use the

1073
00:40:01,190 --> 00:39:59,359
healing

1074
00:40:03,349 --> 00:40:01,200
uh and i know a lot of people out there

1075
00:40:05,349 --> 00:40:03,359
have asked me you know put why am i why

1076
00:40:07,829 --> 00:40:05,359
why aren't they healing me

1077
00:40:09,270 --> 00:40:07,839
so i started looking at these cases and

1078
00:40:13,589 --> 00:40:09,280
i found half of the people who are being

1079
00:40:15,589 --> 00:40:13,599
healed are generational contactees

1080
00:40:18,069 --> 00:40:15,599
it's not where you live the case is

1081
00:40:19,990 --> 00:40:18,079
stretched back 100 years

1082
00:40:22,069 --> 00:40:20,000
uh what i found

1083
00:40:24,550 --> 00:40:22,079
was shocking actually i remember i was

1084
00:40:27,030 --> 00:40:24,560
interviewing this lady from norway

1085
00:40:28,950 --> 00:40:27,040
she had her back healed

1086
00:40:30,470 --> 00:40:28,960
and of you know chronic back pain from

1087
00:40:32,710 --> 00:40:30,480
an injury

1088
00:40:35,270 --> 00:40:32,720
and i'm like so do you have a history of

1089
00:40:37,829 --> 00:40:35,280
contact she's like no

1090
00:40:39,829 --> 00:40:37,839
i've never seen a ufo she had grace come

1091
00:40:41,589 --> 00:40:39,839
into her bedroom flip her around like a

1092
00:40:43,829 --> 00:40:41,599
rag doll put an instrument on her back

1093
00:40:45,430 --> 00:40:43,839
heal her and walk out that scared the

1094
00:40:46,630 --> 00:40:45,440
living daylights out of her they

1095
00:40:48,550 --> 00:40:46,640
wouldn't answer any questions or

1096
00:40:51,829 --> 00:40:48,560
anything just healed her

1097
00:40:53,190 --> 00:40:51,839
she's like why me i'm like you know well

1098
00:40:55,990 --> 00:40:53,200
have you had any other unusual

1099
00:40:57,109 --> 00:40:56,000
experiences you had a few paranormal but

1100
00:40:58,950 --> 00:40:57,119
nothing

1101
00:41:00,630 --> 00:40:58,960
off the charts

1102
00:41:03,109 --> 00:41:00,640
and i'm like well what do you do for a

1103
00:41:05,190 --> 00:41:03,119
living he's like well i'm an artist

1104
00:41:07,270 --> 00:41:05,200
and i'm a graphic artist i'm retired now

1105
00:41:08,950 --> 00:41:07,280
please don't use my name because i'm

1106
00:41:10,950 --> 00:41:08,960
actually really well known in my country

1107
00:41:13,109 --> 00:41:10,960
in my area norway

1108
00:41:15,589 --> 00:41:13,119
as a human rights

1109
00:41:18,150 --> 00:41:15,599
activist and animal rights

1110
00:41:19,190 --> 00:41:18,160
and that instantly rang a bell because i

1111
00:41:20,790 --> 00:41:19,200
started like

1112
00:41:23,510 --> 00:41:20,800
oh my gosh

1113
00:41:25,030 --> 00:41:23,520
that's like michael carter who's pretty

1114
00:41:26,790 --> 00:41:25,040
well known in this field he fights

1115
00:41:28,950 --> 00:41:26,800
against racism he was healed of a blood

1116
00:41:30,630 --> 00:41:28,960
clot in his leg i thought oh my gosh

1117
00:41:32,470 --> 00:41:30,640
john hunter gray

1118
00:41:35,670 --> 00:41:32,480
he had a healing he's an award-winning

1119
00:41:36,710 --> 00:41:35,680
civil rights activist like wait dr x the

1120
00:41:39,349 --> 00:41:36,720
case from

1121
00:41:40,790 --> 00:41:39,359
jacques vallee he's a doctor

1122
00:41:42,550 --> 00:41:40,800
and so i started like oh my gosh i think

1123
00:41:45,670 --> 00:41:42,560
i found something here i started looking

1124
00:41:48,230 --> 00:41:45,680
at all my cases and yes they are doctors

1125
00:41:49,430 --> 00:41:48,240
they're artists they're musicians their

1126
00:41:51,910 --> 00:41:49,440
teachers

1127
00:41:53,030 --> 00:41:51,920
they are human rights activists they're

1128
00:41:54,630 --> 00:41:53,040
animal rights activists they're

1129
00:41:56,390 --> 00:41:54,640
environmentalists

1130
00:41:59,030 --> 00:41:56,400
they are people who are doing good work

1131
00:42:01,430 --> 00:41:59,040
for humanity in some capacity

1132
00:42:03,109 --> 00:42:01,440
police officers it's kind of a loose

1133
00:42:04,230 --> 00:42:03,119
pattern

1134
00:42:06,550 --> 00:42:04,240
but

1135
00:42:09,349 --> 00:42:06,560
yeah it absolutely i see it now that i

1136
00:42:13,349 --> 00:42:09,359
know what to look for like

1137
00:42:16,390 --> 00:42:13,359
this is these and it goes beyond healing

1138
00:42:18,630 --> 00:42:16,400
uh so you see an enormous number of

1139
00:42:21,990 --> 00:42:18,640
musicians who have had contact miley

1140
00:42:24,470 --> 00:42:22,000
cyrus demi lovato john lennon

1141
00:42:27,430 --> 00:42:24,480
sammy hagar sting

1142
00:42:31,670 --> 00:42:27,440
i mean the list is amazing the moody

1143
00:42:37,109 --> 00:42:34,150
do you um do you think

1144
00:42:39,030 --> 00:42:37,119
that there's an ancestral dna connection

1145
00:42:41,510 --> 00:42:39,040
as to why

1146
00:42:43,349 --> 00:42:41,520
this does continue on with families i

1147
00:42:45,910 --> 00:42:43,359
mean is there specific and

1148
00:42:48,230 --> 00:42:45,920
i don't know if you have any evidence of

1149
00:42:50,150 --> 00:42:48,240
certain dna or certain traits

1150
00:42:52,470 --> 00:42:50,160
but do you think there is a possibility

1151
00:42:54,309 --> 00:42:52,480
that's what's going on

1152
00:42:56,870 --> 00:42:54,319
yeah i started to focus on that a little

1153
00:42:58,390 --> 00:42:56,880
bit because you know we can do it what's

1154
00:43:01,349 --> 00:42:58,400
the ancestry

1155
00:43:03,589 --> 00:43:01,359
ancestry.com things like this

1156
00:43:04,790 --> 00:43:03,599
uh and some some of the contactees have

1157
00:43:07,109 --> 00:43:04,800
had their

1158
00:43:08,710 --> 00:43:07,119
genetic charts done

1159
00:43:11,030 --> 00:43:08,720
and it's really interesting because

1160
00:43:12,230 --> 00:43:11,040
those who have says

1161
00:43:14,390 --> 00:43:12,240
i don't know if you realize this but you

1162
00:43:17,430 --> 00:43:14,400
know i've got like every i've got all

1163
00:43:18,550 --> 00:43:17,440
genetic lines in here you know

1164
00:43:21,750 --> 00:43:18,560
asian

1165
00:43:23,430 --> 00:43:21,760
you know south pacific black uh

1166
00:43:24,710 --> 00:43:23,440
native american

1167
00:43:26,790 --> 00:43:24,720
another

1168
00:43:29,190 --> 00:43:26,800
others will often say you know my family

1169
00:43:30,630 --> 00:43:29,200
goes back to the original lines i've had

1170
00:43:33,349 --> 00:43:30,640
a number of people they're directly

1171
00:43:35,109 --> 00:43:33,359
connected to world leaders presidents

1172
00:43:38,710 --> 00:43:35,119
royalty

1173
00:43:41,510 --> 00:43:38,720
one guy don anderson from utah had his

1174
00:43:43,670 --> 00:43:41,520
snack chart done he says i suffer from a

1175
00:43:45,990 --> 00:43:43,680
very rare condition

1176
00:43:48,630 --> 00:43:46,000
gosh what's it called die

1177
00:43:51,430 --> 00:43:48,640
die i forget the actual

1178
00:43:54,150 --> 00:43:51,440
term but almost all his genetics comes

1179
00:43:56,870 --> 00:43:54,160
from his dad

1180
00:43:57,990 --> 00:43:56,880
which is very strange and very unusual

1181
00:43:59,589 --> 00:43:58,000
and yet

1182
00:44:01,829 --> 00:43:59,599
there are a number of cases like this in

1183
00:44:03,109 --> 00:44:01,839
the literature there's a lot of cases of

1184
00:44:05,349 --> 00:44:03,119
twins

1185
00:44:08,150 --> 00:44:05,359
who have contact

1186
00:44:10,150 --> 00:44:08,160
so there is a genetic focus here and i

1187
00:44:11,430 --> 00:44:10,160
think what the et's are i think the case

1188
00:44:12,309 --> 00:44:11,440
that really

1189
00:44:14,390 --> 00:44:12,319
kind of

1190
00:44:16,710 --> 00:44:14,400
underlined this for me comes from jim

1191
00:44:19,190 --> 00:44:16,720
law from gainesville florida

1192
00:44:20,870 --> 00:44:19,200
uh contactee who's not very well known

1193
00:44:23,589 --> 00:44:20,880
but he's gone public

1194
00:44:25,030 --> 00:44:23,599
and done a couple of lectures here and

1195
00:44:27,190 --> 00:44:25,040
there

1196
00:44:29,430 --> 00:44:27,200
uh he

1197
00:44:31,109 --> 00:44:29,440
has had contact his whole life

1198
00:44:32,630 --> 00:44:31,119
the grace came in he's pretty much over

1199
00:44:33,829 --> 00:44:32,640
the fear at this point he's like you're

1200
00:44:36,390 --> 00:44:33,839
gonna take me

1201
00:44:38,069 --> 00:44:36,400
heal my hernia and they're like oh we

1202
00:44:39,750 --> 00:44:38,079
know of this condition which you speak

1203
00:44:41,510 --> 00:44:39,760
and we will repair it it's almost a

1204
00:44:42,790 --> 00:44:41,520
direct quote

1205
00:44:44,230 --> 00:44:42,800
slightly paraphrased but that's what

1206
00:44:46,950 --> 00:44:44,240
they told them

1207
00:44:48,950 --> 00:44:46,960
and it's like why are you contacting me

1208
00:44:52,390 --> 00:44:48,960
and they said we are interested in your

1209
00:44:54,550 --> 00:44:52,400
genetic potential to live a long time

1210
00:44:56,069 --> 00:44:54,560
and that really fascinated him and me

1211
00:44:57,670 --> 00:44:56,079
for that matter but him because his

1212
00:44:59,589 --> 00:44:57,680
grandfather

1213
00:45:01,270 --> 00:44:59,599
is 106

1214
00:45:04,390 --> 00:45:01,280
and still kicking

1215
00:45:06,550 --> 00:45:04,400
and he's got many long-lived relatives

1216
00:45:10,230 --> 00:45:06,560
so this points towards

1217
00:45:11,829 --> 00:45:10,240
et's doing what john mack called

1218
00:45:14,309 --> 00:45:11,839
upgrades

1219
00:45:16,069 --> 00:45:14,319
and we see the case after case

1220
00:45:17,750 --> 00:45:16,079
i talked to a number of contactees who

1221
00:45:21,510 --> 00:45:17,760
go to the doctor like the doctor told me

1222
00:45:24,630 --> 00:45:21,520
i have lungs of a teenager and i'm 80.

1223
00:45:27,510 --> 00:45:24,640
and some of them are very long-lived and

1224
00:45:28,790 --> 00:45:27,520
enjoy excellent health and do don't get

1225
00:45:31,349 --> 00:45:28,800
colds

1226
00:45:32,870 --> 00:45:31,359
and don't suffer from all the you know

1227
00:45:35,109 --> 00:45:32,880
diseases

1228
00:45:37,510 --> 00:45:35,119
this is not completely universal or

1229
00:45:39,190 --> 00:45:37,520
without exception certainly

1230
00:45:41,349 --> 00:45:39,200
but there are enough cases where i think

1231
00:45:44,230 --> 00:45:41,359
they are absolutely following genetic

1232
00:45:46,630 --> 00:45:44,240
lines of people who

1233
00:45:49,109 --> 00:45:46,640
are have tendencies to you know help

1234
00:45:52,309 --> 00:45:49,119
humanity you know there who are kind of

1235
00:45:54,870 --> 00:45:52,319
shakers and doers in society

1236
00:45:56,150 --> 00:45:54,880
people who are profoundly psychic

1237
00:45:58,630 --> 00:45:56,160
people who have

1238
00:46:00,630 --> 00:45:58,640
good healthy genes

1239
00:46:03,829 --> 00:46:00,640
so they're really trying to save the

1240
00:46:06,870 --> 00:46:03,839
best genetic stock of humanity

1241
00:46:08,309 --> 00:46:06,880
because we are our magnetic fields are

1242
00:46:10,710 --> 00:46:08,319
in trouble right now

1243
00:46:12,150 --> 00:46:10,720
if you look at the whole uh

1244
00:46:14,550 --> 00:46:12,160
cmes

1245
00:46:17,510 --> 00:46:14,560
coronal mass ejections and the weakening

1246
00:46:19,750 --> 00:46:17,520
of our magnetic field of our planet

1247
00:46:21,990 --> 00:46:19,760
we're having some real problems

1248
00:46:24,790 --> 00:46:22,000
uh so this could be one of the reasons

1249
00:46:27,349 --> 00:46:24,800
why they're here in such large numbers

1250
00:46:30,069 --> 00:46:27,359
is to just make sure that they're saving

1251
00:46:31,109 --> 00:46:30,079
the best of our genes i think that is

1252
00:46:34,309 --> 00:46:31,119
definitely

1253
00:46:36,150 --> 00:46:34,319
the main agenda behind the

1254
00:46:39,750 --> 00:46:36,160
collection of genetic material and the

1255
00:46:42,390 --> 00:46:39,760
following of certain family lines

1256
00:46:43,990 --> 00:46:42,400
um nancy malcolm asked

1257
00:46:45,670 --> 00:46:44,000
an interesting question it's tied to

1258
00:46:48,870 --> 00:46:45,680
this is there a tie

1259
00:46:52,150 --> 00:46:48,880
to royal blood in the ets

1260
00:46:53,829 --> 00:46:52,160
yeah i think there possibly is um

1261
00:46:56,870 --> 00:46:53,839
i think that this is one of the reasons

1262
00:46:58,870 --> 00:46:56,880
we see with royal families so

1263
00:47:01,349 --> 00:46:58,880
obsessed with keeping

1264
00:47:02,710 --> 00:47:01,359
their genetic lines pure

1265
00:47:05,190 --> 00:47:02,720
because they believe that somewhere down

1266
00:47:06,950 --> 00:47:05,200
the line this is they're directly

1267
00:47:08,710 --> 00:47:06,960
related to all this

1268
00:47:10,230 --> 00:47:08,720
to the et's

1269
00:47:11,750 --> 00:47:10,240
and yeah i have had a number of

1270
00:47:13,589 --> 00:47:11,760
contactees

1271
00:47:15,430 --> 00:47:13,599
my sister-in-law

1272
00:47:18,230 --> 00:47:15,440
found out that she is

1273
00:47:20,950 --> 00:47:18,240
apparently it's related to some royalty

1274
00:47:24,710 --> 00:47:22,870
the philippines

1275
00:47:27,829 --> 00:47:24,720
and i'm like wow you're a filipino

1276
00:47:33,430 --> 00:47:27,839
princess and she's like no shut up

1277
00:47:36,829 --> 00:47:33,440
and yeah i do see this in contact ease

1278
00:47:40,950 --> 00:47:36,839
so i am not quite sure what to make of

1279
00:47:43,030 --> 00:47:40,960
it because contact is widespread

1280
00:47:44,069 --> 00:47:43,040
but the fact is if you look at the human

1281
00:47:47,829 --> 00:47:44,079
race

1282
00:47:49,349 --> 00:47:47,839
in general we are terrifically inbred

1283
00:47:52,309 --> 00:47:49,359
scientists have realized that we came

1284
00:47:54,230 --> 00:47:52,319
from a very small group of people

1285
00:47:56,069 --> 00:47:54,240
genetic stock

1286
00:47:58,710 --> 00:47:56,079
so it's kind of

1287
00:48:00,950 --> 00:47:58,720
i mean to some extent we we are all very

1288
00:48:03,829 --> 00:48:00,960
much related to each other

1289
00:48:05,510 --> 00:48:03,839
so i don't want to make too much of it

1290
00:48:07,510 --> 00:48:05,520
but yeah there's definitely some sort of

1291
00:48:09,270 --> 00:48:07,520
connection there

1292
00:48:11,190 --> 00:48:09,280
we uh we got another question from

1293
00:48:13,109 --> 00:48:11,200
michael kennedy um

1294
00:48:15,030 --> 00:48:13,119
do you think and this is directed

1295
00:48:16,470 --> 00:48:15,040
directly to you uh

1296
00:48:20,710 --> 00:48:16,480
uh

1297
00:48:22,710 --> 00:48:20,720
jeremy corbell and um

1298
00:48:24,630 --> 00:48:22,720
uh george knapp in the aspect of

1299
00:48:27,589 --> 00:48:24,640
non-disclosure

1300
00:48:29,190 --> 00:48:27,599
released whistleblowers uh will will

1301
00:48:30,950 --> 00:48:29,200
actually break open government

1302
00:48:32,870 --> 00:48:30,960
disclosure

1303
00:48:35,109 --> 00:48:32,880
uh yeah huge shout out to michael hi

1304
00:48:36,309 --> 00:48:35,119
michael um

1305
00:48:40,390 --> 00:48:36,319
gosh

1306
00:48:42,710 --> 00:48:40,400
i hope so i am a bit jaded to be honest

1307
00:48:45,829 --> 00:48:42,720
because i've been in this field for some

1308
00:48:47,589 --> 00:48:45,839
35 years well you and me both i'm you

1309
00:48:49,750 --> 00:48:47,599
know i

1310
00:48:50,870 --> 00:48:49,760
i'm one of those people that you know

1311
00:48:53,030 --> 00:48:50,880
it's just like

1312
00:48:54,950 --> 00:48:53,040
i'll believe it when i see it

1313
00:48:57,190 --> 00:48:54,960
yeah but we have had steps towards

1314
00:48:59,589 --> 00:48:57,200
disclosure that was earth shaking i'm

1315
00:49:02,630 --> 00:48:59,599
like wow they actually used the word

1316
00:49:04,630 --> 00:49:02,640
extraterrestrial i couldn't believe it

1317
00:49:06,309 --> 00:49:04,640
you could tell it hurt them to say it

1318
00:49:08,150 --> 00:49:06,319
yeah and they won't you know they're

1319
00:49:10,230 --> 00:49:08,160
like maybe it's russian technology maybe

1320
00:49:13,030 --> 00:49:10,240
it's our technology i'm like wait aren't

1321
00:49:15,270 --> 00:49:13,040
you the head of the defense department

1322
00:49:17,910 --> 00:49:15,280
you should know if it's us

1323
00:49:20,549 --> 00:49:17,920
uh so i think what we're looking at is a

1324
00:49:22,390 --> 00:49:20,559
situation where the cover-up has been a

1325
00:49:24,790 --> 00:49:22,400
disastrous failure

1326
00:49:26,630 --> 00:49:24,800
it really has it hasn't worked it's an

1327
00:49:28,309 --> 00:49:26,640
open conspiracy

1328
00:49:30,150 --> 00:49:28,319
most people

1329
00:49:32,390 --> 00:49:30,160
the majority of americans believe our

1330
00:49:34,470 --> 00:49:32,400
government is hiding ufo information

1331
00:49:35,510 --> 00:49:34,480
and they are it's demonstrable we know

1332
00:49:36,950 --> 00:49:35,520
this because of the freedom of

1333
00:49:38,309 --> 00:49:36,960
information act

1334
00:49:40,150 --> 00:49:38,319
and with the number of whistleblowers

1335
00:49:42,230 --> 00:49:40,160
coming out and

1336
00:49:44,309 --> 00:49:42,240
it's impossible to cover this up anymore

1337
00:49:46,470 --> 00:49:44,319
and that is i think the main driver

1338
00:49:47,589 --> 00:49:46,480
behind the disclosure movement

1339
00:50:09,750 --> 00:49:47,599
i

1340
00:50:11,510 --> 00:50:09,760
from our governments

1341
00:50:13,910 --> 00:50:11,520
i think it could happen

1342
00:50:16,710 --> 00:50:13,920
in a major event where there is someone

1343
00:50:18,309 --> 00:50:16,720
who has some ethical bone in their body

1344
00:50:20,309 --> 00:50:18,319
just says i'm done

1345
00:50:23,349 --> 00:50:20,319
we need a sitting world leader to say

1346
00:50:27,030 --> 00:50:23,359
you know this is real

1347
00:50:28,309 --> 00:50:27,040
uh and we don't have that often you know

1348
00:50:31,829 --> 00:50:28,319
they'll say it after they're out of

1349
00:50:34,150 --> 00:50:31,839
office and that's not so useful

1350
00:50:35,670 --> 00:50:34,160
i mean it helps but

1351
00:50:37,670 --> 00:50:35,680
at some point yeah i think disclosure

1352
00:50:39,829 --> 00:50:37,680
will happen and i think the people who

1353
00:50:41,510 --> 00:50:39,839
are working hard on this

1354
00:50:44,710 --> 00:50:41,520
are heroes

1355
00:50:45,910 --> 00:50:44,720
and uh the progress we're making is

1356
00:50:47,990 --> 00:50:45,920
awesome

1357
00:50:49,349 --> 00:50:48,000
but i don't think we're gonna get the

1358
00:50:51,589 --> 00:50:49,359
truth ever

1359
00:50:53,990 --> 00:50:51,599
they've lied their life that recent

1360
00:50:55,109 --> 00:50:54,000
congressional hearing was filled with

1361
00:50:56,710 --> 00:50:55,119
lies

1362
00:50:58,549 --> 00:50:56,720
any one of those senators that picked up

1363
00:50:59,910 --> 00:50:58,559
one single ufo book

1364
00:51:01,990 --> 00:50:59,920
they would have asked much better

1365
00:51:03,589 --> 00:51:02,000
questions absolutely

1366
00:51:05,430 --> 00:51:03,599
all right i was thinking i was thinking

1367
00:51:07,430 --> 00:51:05,440
the exact same thing when i was watching

1368
00:51:10,390 --> 00:51:07,440
i mean there's no way these guys have no

1369
00:51:11,430 --> 00:51:10,400
idea what the hell they're talking about

1370
00:51:14,710 --> 00:51:11,440
yeah

1371
00:51:15,910 --> 00:51:14,720
shot at these

1372
00:51:18,710 --> 00:51:15,920
and uh

1373
00:51:20,549 --> 00:51:18,720
what was his name daley and moultrie the

1374
00:51:23,030 --> 00:51:20,559
two top defense guys

1375
00:51:25,109 --> 00:51:23,040
no real quick

1376
00:51:27,430 --> 00:51:25,119
what about the battle of l.a what about

1377
00:51:30,069 --> 00:51:27,440
1952 where there's hundreds of cases

1378
00:51:32,390 --> 00:51:30,079
where we shot at them and lost pilots

1379
00:51:37,190 --> 00:51:34,470
that was a flat out lie have you ever

1380
00:51:41,750 --> 00:51:37,200
heard of monstrum like well no we've got

1381
00:51:46,390 --> 00:51:43,910
i mean on the other side they might not

1382
00:51:48,069 --> 00:51:46,400
think people are ready either they might

1383
00:51:49,349 --> 00:51:48,079
fear panic and

1384
00:51:51,510 --> 00:51:49,359
you know

1385
00:51:53,430 --> 00:51:51,520
just everything collapsing if you think

1386
00:51:55,109 --> 00:51:53,440
about it because they want to control

1387
00:51:57,430 --> 00:51:55,119
everything

1388
00:51:59,990 --> 00:51:57,440
and if they give disclosure what control

1389
00:52:02,069 --> 00:52:00,000
does the government have then

1390
00:52:03,990 --> 00:52:02,079
yeah i personally don't think that

1391
00:52:06,150 --> 00:52:04,000
society would collapse yeah there's

1392
00:52:07,430 --> 00:52:06,160
going to be some really upset people you

1393
00:52:09,589 --> 00:52:07,440
know if you're

1394
00:52:12,470 --> 00:52:09,599
an ultra skeptic

1395
00:52:14,950 --> 00:52:12,480
and i was by the way

1396
00:52:16,710 --> 00:52:14,960
it hurt me mentally i mean this was not

1397
00:52:19,589 --> 00:52:16,720
an easy transition period finding out

1398
00:52:21,270 --> 00:52:19,599
ufos were real i was upset i felt

1399
00:52:23,349 --> 00:52:21,280
scandalized yeah it's going to upset

1400
00:52:26,230 --> 00:52:23,359
people if you're a fundamentalist

1401
00:52:28,630 --> 00:52:26,240
religious you believe this is demonic

1402
00:52:31,349 --> 00:52:28,640
this is going to be hard for you

1403
00:52:33,510 --> 00:52:31,359
but we've dealt with you know

1404
00:52:36,470 --> 00:52:33,520
the nuclear threat we've dealt with

1405
00:52:39,030 --> 00:52:36,480
pandemics we've dealt with

1406
00:52:40,549 --> 00:52:39,040
famines we've dealt with

1407
00:52:42,069 --> 00:52:40,559
tsunamis and

1408
00:52:44,150 --> 00:52:42,079
i mean

1409
00:52:46,950 --> 00:52:44,160
we could easily handle this i don't

1410
00:52:48,470 --> 00:52:46,960
think people would panic i think i know

1411
00:52:51,270 --> 00:52:48,480
i'm ready

1412
00:52:55,109 --> 00:52:52,710
and one thing people often talk to is

1413
00:52:57,109 --> 00:52:55,119
like oh what about the orson welles

1414
00:52:58,790 --> 00:52:57,119
you know broadcast where people did

1415
00:53:00,870 --> 00:52:58,800
panic

1416
00:53:03,430 --> 00:53:00,880
hold on a second that was a radio

1417
00:53:05,990 --> 00:53:03,440
program that was a horror movie it was

1418
00:53:07,349 --> 00:53:06,000
very well done it was designed to cause

1419
00:53:08,150 --> 00:53:07,359
fear

1420
00:53:09,990 --> 00:53:08,160
uh

1421
00:53:11,349 --> 00:53:10,000
no i don't think that's how people would

1422
00:53:13,270 --> 00:53:11,359
react at all

1423
00:53:15,030 --> 00:53:13,280
i i think we're ready and i don't think

1424
00:53:15,910 --> 00:53:15,040
that the government thinks we would

1425
00:53:19,030 --> 00:53:15,920
panic

1426
00:53:21,750 --> 00:53:19,040
i think they know we would embrace it

1427
00:53:24,150 --> 00:53:21,760
that's their fear

1428
00:53:26,230 --> 00:53:24,160
yeah but you know if too many people

1429
00:53:29,349 --> 00:53:26,240
start embracing it then more questions

1430
00:53:30,470 --> 00:53:29,359
start to develop and then i think

1431
00:53:32,230 --> 00:53:30,480
they're going to be

1432
00:53:33,349 --> 00:53:32,240
more afraid that what they're going to

1433
00:53:35,270 --> 00:53:33,359
have to

1434
00:53:36,069 --> 00:53:35,280
go beyond what they're willing to tell

1435
00:53:38,069 --> 00:53:36,079
us

1436
00:53:39,750 --> 00:53:38,079
exactly you know it's funny that

1437
00:53:43,349 --> 00:53:39,760
congressional hearing was all about

1438
00:53:45,910 --> 00:53:43,359
sightings look we have 144 sightings

1439
00:53:48,790 --> 00:53:45,920
look now it's over over 400. like

1440
00:53:49,829 --> 00:53:48,800
sightings what about landings

1441
00:53:52,150 --> 00:53:49,839
you know the

1442
00:53:54,790 --> 00:53:52,160
i know of 50 landing trace cases right

1443
00:53:56,630 --> 00:53:54,800
off the bat with actual hard evidence

1444
00:53:58,230 --> 00:53:56,640
you're not studying those what about

1445
00:54:00,470 --> 00:53:58,240
betty and bernie hill

1446
00:54:04,710 --> 00:54:00,480
travis welton charlie hixson calvin

1447
00:54:09,589 --> 00:54:07,910
mona stafford we can go on and on

1448
00:54:13,030 --> 00:54:09,599
with the you know

1449
00:54:16,230 --> 00:54:13,040
number of contactees raymond moody

1450
00:54:17,829 --> 00:54:16,240
or not raymond uh charles moody

1451
00:54:21,190 --> 00:54:17,839
these are cases

1452
00:54:23,109 --> 00:54:21,200
which are being completely ignored why

1453
00:54:24,150 --> 00:54:23,119
they opened up a can of worms

1454
00:54:25,829 --> 00:54:24,160
so their

1455
00:54:29,030 --> 00:54:25,839
questions are going to start being asked

1456
00:54:31,190 --> 00:54:29,040
about not only landings and direct

1457
00:54:32,309 --> 00:54:31,200
contact but let's face it crash

1458
00:54:34,790 --> 00:54:32,319
retrievals

1459
00:54:36,630 --> 00:54:34,800
they were they were asked about roswell

1460
00:54:39,030 --> 00:54:36,640
or they offered it actually like oh i

1461
00:54:41,030 --> 00:54:39,040
know about the myth of roswell

1462
00:54:42,710 --> 00:54:41,040
these stories and they just completely

1463
00:54:44,470 --> 00:54:42,720
like jokes their way through it i'm like

1464
00:54:46,390 --> 00:54:44,480
that's no joke

1465
00:54:47,750 --> 00:54:46,400
there's three 400 witness there's a

1466
00:54:48,630 --> 00:54:47,760
hundred books on that case did you know

1467
00:54:50,630 --> 00:54:48,640
that

1468
00:54:52,390 --> 00:54:50,640
a hundred

1469
00:54:54,150 --> 00:54:52,400
i've got like 10 of them i'm like that's

1470
00:54:57,190 --> 00:54:54,160
it i think

1471
00:55:00,230 --> 00:54:57,200
but yeah there's three 400 500 witnesses

1472
00:55:02,950 --> 00:55:00,240
it's a good case that will not go away

1473
00:55:05,910 --> 00:55:02,960
and it's one of hundreds of cases of

1474
00:55:07,349 --> 00:55:05,920
crash retrievals it's not just roswell

1475
00:55:09,670 --> 00:55:07,359
there's actually there's a lot of them

1476
00:55:11,270 --> 00:55:09,680
out there ah paradise valley crash the

1477
00:55:13,990 --> 00:55:11,280
kecksburg crash

1478
00:55:14,789 --> 00:55:14,000
okay well i mentioned cape girardeau

1479
00:55:23,589 --> 00:55:14,799
uh

1480
00:55:24,870 --> 00:55:23,599
that i'm getting i mean and you know of

1481
00:55:26,950 --> 00:55:24,880
course we're going to get a little

1482
00:55:28,549 --> 00:55:26,960
bizarre sometimes

1483
00:55:30,230 --> 00:55:28,559
but

1484
00:55:31,910 --> 00:55:30,240
you know when you start going over them

1485
00:55:33,829 --> 00:55:31,920
you got to wonder i mean how much of

1486
00:55:35,349 --> 00:55:33,839
this is really true how much do they

1487
00:55:37,910 --> 00:55:35,359
believe it's true

1488
00:55:39,430 --> 00:55:37,920
or uh you know but there's definitely

1489
00:55:42,069 --> 00:55:39,440
something going on

1490
00:55:43,829 --> 00:55:42,079
and um

1491
00:55:47,430 --> 00:55:43,839
i don't know i mean i guess i guess it's

1492
00:55:49,990 --> 00:55:47,440
gonna it's going to come down to

1493
00:55:52,309 --> 00:55:50,000
uh and like i had in my book early

1494
00:55:55,270 --> 00:55:52,319
disclosure is basically we're going to

1495
00:55:57,910 --> 00:55:55,280
have start believing experiencers

1496
00:56:01,190 --> 00:55:57,920
and and looking deeply more deeply into

1497
00:56:04,470 --> 00:56:01,200
what they they've gone through

1498
00:56:07,270 --> 00:56:04,480
and just not worry what everybody

1499
00:56:09,109 --> 00:56:07,280
everybody else thinks about it

1500
00:56:11,829 --> 00:56:09,119
yeah it's infuriates me when people says

1501
00:56:14,150 --> 00:56:11,839
there's no evidence for et's

1502
00:56:15,510 --> 00:56:14,160
wait a second you know going beyond the

1503
00:56:18,150 --> 00:56:15,520
photographs

1504
00:56:19,750 --> 00:56:18,160
the films the radar returns the landing

1505
00:56:21,750 --> 00:56:19,760
trace cases

1506
00:56:23,270 --> 00:56:21,760
and the medical evidence of injuries and

1507
00:56:25,109 --> 00:56:23,280
healings

1508
00:56:27,270 --> 00:56:25,119
let's look at some of the implant

1509
00:56:29,589 --> 00:56:27,280
removal cases

1510
00:56:31,829 --> 00:56:29,599
you know with the research of dr roger

1511
00:56:33,990 --> 00:56:31,839
lear and others

1512
00:56:35,670 --> 00:56:34,000
uh this is smoke and gun evidence i mean

1513
00:56:37,829 --> 00:56:35,680
how much evidence do you need it's

1514
00:56:41,030 --> 00:56:37,839
ridiculous

1515
00:56:44,470 --> 00:56:41,040
um the case that investigated by uh ray

1516
00:56:46,150 --> 00:56:44,480
fowler the allagash incident the alagash

1517
00:56:49,030 --> 00:56:46,160
war with you know

1518
00:56:51,349 --> 00:56:49,040
jim and john weiner and

1519
00:56:53,510 --> 00:56:51,359
the other two guys

1520
00:56:57,589 --> 00:56:53,520
four people taking it once that's the

1521
00:57:00,950 --> 00:56:59,430
the evidence is there

1522
00:57:03,670 --> 00:57:00,960
yeah it is

1523
00:57:05,750 --> 00:57:03,680
it is there i mean you know i don't mind

1524
00:57:07,510 --> 00:57:05,760
anecdotal evidence

1525
00:57:09,109 --> 00:57:07,520
uh you know

1526
00:57:10,789 --> 00:57:09,119
that's always the complaint you get well

1527
00:57:12,230 --> 00:57:10,799
if you don't see it it's not there or

1528
00:57:14,069 --> 00:57:12,240
they don't have a photograph it's not

1529
00:57:15,990 --> 00:57:14,079
there well

1530
00:57:17,589 --> 00:57:16,000
you know you can just tell by the way

1531
00:57:19,510 --> 00:57:17,599
people

1532
00:57:21,670 --> 00:57:19,520
explain or describe what they've gone

1533
00:57:23,589 --> 00:57:21,680
through that

1534
00:57:25,670 --> 00:57:23,599
if you've been doing this for any amount

1535
00:57:27,990 --> 00:57:25,680
of time you understand what they're

1536
00:57:29,510 --> 00:57:28,000
telling you is true or at least they

1537
00:57:32,309 --> 00:57:29,520
believe it's true

1538
00:57:33,190 --> 00:57:32,319
uh but it's nothing that they imagine

1539
00:57:34,870 --> 00:57:33,200
right

1540
00:57:36,789 --> 00:57:34,880
if there's a skeptic out there listening

1541
00:57:38,710 --> 00:57:36,799
and i doubt there is because most people

1542
00:57:40,710 --> 00:57:38,720
who would tune into this you know are

1543
00:57:43,270 --> 00:57:40,720
kindly looking but i'm sure there are

1544
00:57:46,390 --> 00:57:43,280
skeptics right i dare you my challenge

1545
00:57:48,390 --> 00:57:46,400
to a skeptic is pick up a ufo book

1546
00:57:51,109 --> 00:57:48,400
actually look at the evidence

1547
00:57:53,750 --> 00:57:51,119
i dare you to ask everyone in your

1548
00:57:56,069 --> 00:57:53,760
family your friends and your co-workers

1549
00:57:57,910 --> 00:57:56,079
dollars to donuts you have a contact d

1550
00:58:00,390 --> 00:57:57,920
that you know

1551
00:58:02,309 --> 00:58:00,400
uh the evidence yeah is

1552
00:58:04,390 --> 00:58:02,319
you know what's amazed me is when i

1553
00:58:06,950 --> 00:58:04,400
started talking to people

1554
00:58:08,549 --> 00:58:06,960
i remember the first one that like just

1555
00:58:10,710 --> 00:58:08,559
kind of knocked me over in my family was

1556
00:58:12,150 --> 00:58:10,720
my sister-in-law she started to describe

1557
00:58:14,150 --> 00:58:12,160
a gray e.t

1558
00:58:16,470 --> 00:58:14,160
and this was well before you know bud

1559
00:58:17,589 --> 00:58:16,480
hopkins books came out

1560
00:58:20,470 --> 00:58:17,599
and she

1561
00:58:22,390 --> 00:58:20,480
started describing this typical gray

1562
00:58:24,950 --> 00:58:22,400
like she says you know pale skin i'm

1563
00:58:27,349 --> 00:58:24,960
gonna in a jumpsuit and all this you

1564
00:58:28,950 --> 00:58:27,359
know the details we now know so well

1565
00:58:31,589 --> 00:58:28,960
and of course she did she just got into

1566
00:58:33,430 --> 00:58:31,599
a t i'm like can you draw it for me

1567
00:58:34,309 --> 00:58:33,440
she drew a gray

1568
00:58:35,829 --> 00:58:34,319
uh

1569
00:58:37,430 --> 00:58:35,839
and now you know having interviewed

1570
00:58:38,230 --> 00:58:37,440
hundreds of people there's a lot of

1571
00:58:39,829 --> 00:58:38,240
little

1572
00:58:41,910 --> 00:58:39,839
details

1573
00:58:43,430 --> 00:58:41,920
i remember i talked to a navy medic

1574
00:58:45,270 --> 00:58:43,440
kevin cammon

1575
00:58:47,670 --> 00:58:45,280
and asked him you know he was taken on

1576
00:58:50,309 --> 00:58:47,680
board he saw praying mantis type ets

1577
00:58:51,829 --> 00:58:50,319
like how big was the room you were in

1578
00:58:53,910 --> 00:58:51,839
and it kind of gave me this look like

1579
00:58:55,109 --> 00:58:53,920
how am i going to explain this to him

1580
00:58:55,990 --> 00:58:55,119
he says i don't know how to tell you

1581
00:58:58,710 --> 00:58:56,000
this

1582
00:59:00,549 --> 00:58:58,720
but the room changed size

1583
00:59:02,710 --> 00:59:00,559
i'm like oh really because i this is

1584
00:59:04,470 --> 00:59:02,720
something i've heard this is not

1585
00:59:06,549 --> 00:59:04,480
well back then it wasn't well known and

1586
00:59:08,470 --> 00:59:06,559
i think still even to this day it's not

1587
00:59:10,630 --> 00:59:08,480
that well known

1588
00:59:12,710 --> 00:59:10,640
uh he said the room actually expanded in

1589
00:59:14,789 --> 00:59:12,720
size at one point

1590
00:59:17,030 --> 00:59:14,799
i talked to one guy

1591
00:59:18,630 --> 00:59:17,040
he uh actually

1592
00:59:19,670 --> 00:59:18,640
asked the et he's like how big is this

1593
00:59:21,109 --> 00:59:19,680
thing

1594
00:59:23,670 --> 00:59:21,119
and he says this is the only time the

1595
00:59:25,829 --> 00:59:23,680
gray laughed it laughed and he said the

1596
00:59:28,630 --> 00:59:25,839
grey told him it's as big as we need it

1597
00:59:31,270 --> 00:59:29,589
and

1598
00:59:34,549 --> 00:59:31,280
there's the case of

1599
00:59:36,069 --> 00:59:34,559
carl higdon the hunter from wyoming

1600
00:59:37,750 --> 00:59:36,079
really famous case

1601
00:59:39,910 --> 00:59:37,760
he comes upon a landed ufo and a

1602
00:59:40,950 --> 00:59:39,920
humanoid who takes him on board the ufo

1603
00:59:44,069 --> 00:59:40,960
he saw

1604
00:59:45,910 --> 00:59:44,079
was about 10 20 feet across

1605
00:59:47,510 --> 00:59:45,920
he goes inside it's

1606
00:59:49,030 --> 00:59:47,520
huge

1607
00:59:50,150 --> 00:59:49,040
it's much bigger on the inside than the

1608
00:59:52,710 --> 00:59:50,160
outside

1609
00:59:54,950 --> 00:59:52,720
that's exactly what charles moody

1610
00:59:57,109 --> 00:59:54,960
an air force officer said another great

1611
00:59:58,789 --> 00:59:57,119
witness these are not slouches who are

1612
01:00:00,630 --> 00:59:58,799
seeing this stuff

1613
01:00:02,069 --> 01:00:00,640
leonard stringfield the crash retrieval

1614
01:00:04,069 --> 01:00:02,079
guy had a case

1615
01:00:05,589 --> 01:00:04,079
where a guy was taken to photograph a

1616
01:00:07,270 --> 01:00:05,599
ufo

1617
01:00:09,589 --> 01:00:07,280
and he filmed it photographed from the

1618
01:00:12,069 --> 01:00:09,599
outside he's a photographic expert he

1619
01:00:14,069 --> 01:00:12,079
said it was 30 feet across 20 to 30 feet

1620
01:00:16,309 --> 01:00:14,079
across and said okay we'd like you to go

1621
01:00:17,990 --> 01:00:16,319
inside and photograph it

1622
01:00:19,589 --> 01:00:18,000
and he walked inside and

1623
01:00:21,670 --> 01:00:19,599
he immediately stepped outside to take

1624
01:00:23,990 --> 01:00:21,680
another look because he said it was

1625
01:00:25,750 --> 01:00:24,000
bigger than a gymnasium on the inside

1626
01:00:26,789 --> 01:00:25,760
you could not throw a rock and hit the

1627
01:00:28,710 --> 01:00:26,799
other wall

1628
01:00:30,870 --> 01:00:28,720
immediately went out and made sure that

1629
01:00:34,390 --> 01:00:30,880
yeah it's 30 feet across

1630
01:00:36,470 --> 01:00:34,400
and 100 feet wide inside

1631
01:00:39,030 --> 01:00:36,480
so this is these are some of the details

1632
01:00:40,630 --> 01:00:39,040
you hear as a ufo researcher there's a

1633
01:00:43,109 --> 01:00:40,640
lot of them

1634
01:00:45,190 --> 01:00:43,119
that absolutely clinch it there's no way

1635
01:00:48,230 --> 01:00:45,200
people could know this

1636
01:00:50,549 --> 01:00:48,240
a very common detail people will say is

1637
01:00:52,789 --> 01:00:50,559
uh i'm like was it you know well lit

1638
01:00:54,710 --> 01:00:52,799
inside and they're like yeah

1639
01:00:56,710 --> 01:00:54,720
i'm like where's light you know what

1640
01:00:57,829 --> 01:00:56,720
what kind of light

1641
01:01:00,150 --> 01:00:57,839
i don't even know how to tell you this

1642
01:01:02,390 --> 01:01:00,160
but there was no actual light there was

1643
01:01:03,750 --> 01:01:02,400
no lamp it was just completely lit up

1644
01:01:06,150 --> 01:01:03,760
inside

1645
01:01:07,349 --> 01:01:06,160
coming from nowhere

1646
01:01:08,870 --> 01:01:07,359
and people who are unfamiliar with

1647
01:01:10,470 --> 01:01:08,880
telepathy will say you're gonna think

1648
01:01:12,710 --> 01:01:10,480
i'm crazy but they were speaking in my

1649
01:01:16,230 --> 01:01:12,720
head

1650
01:01:18,150 --> 01:01:16,240
telepathy it's universal almost with a

1651
01:01:20,789 --> 01:01:18,160
contact there's an enormous number of

1652
01:01:22,390 --> 01:01:20,799
details that people could no way know

1653
01:01:23,910 --> 01:01:22,400
they're living on different parts of the

1654
01:01:25,990 --> 01:01:23,920
world

1655
01:01:28,950 --> 01:01:26,000
as a rule a lot of these contractors

1656
01:01:30,630 --> 01:01:28,960
will not touch a ufo book

1657
01:01:33,349 --> 01:01:30,640
when i got in this field there was maybe

1658
01:01:36,150 --> 01:01:33,359
20 books on the subject

1659
01:01:38,870 --> 01:01:36,160
but you know you could get a hold of

1660
01:01:40,230 --> 01:01:38,880
there was not like it is today

1661
01:01:44,309 --> 01:01:40,240
so

1662
01:01:47,349 --> 01:01:44,319
very good evidence in terms of

1663
01:01:51,109 --> 01:01:49,270
so preston uh tell folks how they can

1664
01:01:52,630 --> 01:01:51,119
get a hold of you and where they can get

1665
01:01:54,710 --> 01:01:52,640
your books in

1666
01:01:57,870 --> 01:01:54,720
oh thanks i appreciate that lon

1667
01:01:59,510 --> 01:01:57,880
uh i do have a website

1668
01:02:00,710 --> 01:01:59,520
prestondent.weebly.com i think you just

1669
01:02:02,230 --> 01:02:00,720
punched my name on the internet it

1670
01:02:04,230 --> 01:02:02,240
should take you there

1671
01:02:06,150 --> 01:02:04,240
you can certainly contact me through my

1672
01:02:08,150 --> 01:02:06,160
website and take a look at my books and

1673
01:02:10,789 --> 01:02:08,160
excerpts and stuff

1674
01:02:13,349 --> 01:02:10,799
and my books are available on amazon and

1675
01:02:15,430 --> 01:02:13,359
other online retailers i'm on facebook

1676
01:02:16,950 --> 01:02:15,440
you can message me if you want

1677
01:02:19,190 --> 01:02:16,960
i have a youtube channel i'm trying to

1678
01:02:21,349 --> 01:02:19,200
put out my research for those who don't

1679
01:02:22,789 --> 01:02:21,359
have the time to read

1680
01:02:25,190 --> 01:02:22,799
my books aren't audible i'm trying to

1681
01:02:26,549 --> 01:02:25,200
get you know the publishers to cooperate

1682
01:02:29,349 --> 01:02:26,559
so more and more

1683
01:02:31,990 --> 01:02:29,359
are getting put on audible i'm

1684
01:02:33,510 --> 01:02:32,000
on instagram twitter i'm trying to do

1685
01:02:36,470 --> 01:02:33,520
more of the

1686
01:02:38,069 --> 01:02:36,480
social media thing

1687
01:02:41,109 --> 01:02:38,079
so yeah i mean this is an important

1688
01:02:41,990 --> 01:02:41,119
subject i really think that

1689
01:02:44,150 --> 01:02:42,000
shows

1690
01:02:45,829 --> 01:02:44,160
like you're doing are far more important

1691
01:02:47,990 --> 01:02:45,839
than people realize

1692
01:02:50,710 --> 01:02:48,000
this is going to change the world and we

1693
01:02:54,309 --> 01:02:50,720
are on the brink of a huge sea change in

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but preston i appreciate you coming on

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the night and uh

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don't be a stranger and we'd like to

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01:03:03,750 --> 01:03:02,000
have you come back at some point and uh

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you have a good evening

1699
01:03:07,510 --> 01:03:06,000
thanks very much lon thanks bernadette i

1700
01:03:09,589 --> 01:03:07,520
really appreciate it

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01:03:11,109 --> 01:03:09,599
it was fun anytime

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bye

1703
01:03:16,710 --> 01:03:15,039
now if you have a sighting or encounter

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01:03:18,950 --> 01:03:16,720
report that you'd like to be considered

1705
01:03:21,109 --> 01:03:18,960
for a personal report show or even post

1706
01:03:23,670 --> 01:03:21,119
on phantoms and monsters feel free to

1707
01:03:26,710 --> 01:03:23,680
forward to my email at lawnstricker

1708
01:03:30,069 --> 01:03:28,549
if you have an unexplained encounter or

1709
01:03:32,230 --> 01:03:30,079
something feel free to contact me

1710
01:03:35,510 --> 01:03:32,240
through the famous monsters blog site i

1711
01:03:37,190 --> 01:03:35,520
want to again thank my guest preston

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uh

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bennett for coming on this evening and i

1714
01:03:44,870 --> 01:03:41,440
thank bernadette mcdaniel for joining me

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tonight as my co-host and thanks to each

1716
01:03:49,109 --> 01:03:46,880
and all you for watching and chatting if

1717
01:03:51,589 --> 01:03:49,119
you uh made a super chat donation it's

1718
01:03:53,510 --> 01:03:51,599
truly appreciated your support is what

1719
01:03:56,549 --> 01:03:53,520
makes all this possible so please like

1720
01:03:58,710 --> 01:03:56,559
subscribe and share and leave a comment

1721
01:04:00,870 --> 01:03:58,720
so next wednesday

1722
01:04:03,270 --> 01:04:00,880
and nine p.m eastern we will schedule

1723
01:04:06,230 --> 01:04:03,280
another personal reports presentation

1724
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i'll have that posted this weekend

1725
01:04:10,549 --> 01:04:08,079
and then next friday

1726
01:04:12,950 --> 01:04:10,559
i welcome back wt watson

1727
01:04:15,750 --> 01:04:12,960
who will be talking about his new book

1728
01:04:17,430 --> 01:04:15,760
canadian monsters and mysteries

1729
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make sure you tune in for this

1730
01:04:22,309 --> 01:04:20,079
interesting conversation

1731
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and hope to see you in the chat

1732
01:04:30,150 --> 01:04:24,240
so until next week stay healthy and have